Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

This is all so interesting. I’m in So. Cal. No core location and remote. The first attempt for me to RTO was to a building that the lease was eventually not renewed just recently I was asked to RTO to a location 61 miles away.

I haven’t heard anything back in terms of I remain remote, or I will still be asked to RTO 61 miles away. In workday under the. Flexible work arrangements tab within my job profile it states long-term greater than six months legacy distance. I don’t know what that means.

The 40 miles no longer applies. Read the fine print out there and HR has directly passed his information to managers. If you’re banking on being given severance for being 45 miles away you had better start asking now. The 40 miles was applicable to RTO and Remote Status only. It does not play into the Location Strategy. So you can live 120 miles from Des Moines and commute in if you want.

Also reading between the lines and the bold face font, as of now we are back to the actual Location Strategy. Prior to this week it was simply cuts and right sizing. Those of us that remember the tail end of the last one, the Location Strategy was “here is your go forward location for this position (typically no choice, just one option despite multiple core hubs),, you have 90 days to decide (a further 6mo or so to actually move). If you choose not to accept no problem, it is considered job abandonment and you will be terminated. No severance.

With the budgetary set asides I don’t expect them to go full r3tard like that right out of the gate, but don’t fool yourself into thinking it will get better the longer you hold out.

Does RTO apply to contractors or just fte?

If you are remote in a core location and less than 40 miles from the office, you will be told to RTO. You’ll have 2 months to be in full compliance. If you don’t - it’s a performance issue and you ultimately will be fired (no severance )

If you are in a core location, remote, but more than 40 miles and remote you may be offered the option to go into the office or to be termed with severance. Or you may just be termed with severance. Depends on your LOB. If you opt to go in, you lose the option for severance.

If you have a medical accommodation, these things will happen when your accommodation expires.

Never forget what they've taken from us.

I am a manager and I hate RTO too. However, I am held accountable for my employees’ RTO compliance. I’m not going to have my performance review rated lower because an employee of mine won’t comply. I will follow the processes of enforcement which eventually will lead to involuntary termination.

I believe it you're within 40 miles of where they want you to RTO, you either have to RTO or you'll end up terminated. (No Severance.) I imagine it's like the other people who had to RTO - they were told to go in "or else." They were given no choice. Well I suppose there was a choice in that if you didn't RTO you'd be on a PIP.

If you're over 40 miles away I believe they give people a choice - either RTO or take severance.

What does “is remote but hesitate to RTO” even mean? Sorry, but i cannot decipher the question.

We had a few people with that status during our second location strategy wave (last October). They were designated remote, but lived near a hub location.

They were given the choice to comply with RTO (deal with a long commute) or lose their job. Almost all chose not to RTO and were given severance packages. I think they were given a specific date to make the choice.

We haven’t had our third wave yet, so it’s unclear if that layoff vs termination strategy has changed.

Depends entirely on the group / LOB OP. We don't have enough info to answer your question. Some groups are being told that "everyone" is RTOing, and other groups no one is returning and it's not even under consideration. Depends on whether or not your groups leadership is trying to push voluntary attrition or not.

You will be on PIP and eventually moved out unless you have a very crafty manager.

You are just delaying a choice, and it will be made for you

Depends on your boss' desire to keep your around.

You'll end up on a spreadsheet as not complying which is a headache for leadership. On the other hand, we're always being asked to find "saves" for E&E.

You may be a problem that solves itself.

Not defending it, FRTO, FHY, FCS, but answering honestly because you asked.

Sadly, without a medial accommodation you’ll have a time frame. You’ll be expected to return by X date; if not it will be seen as quitting the job. Layoff with severance is when your job or the need for your position is eliminated. RTP is not optional, it’s called su-k it up buttercup.

You deserve to be terminated with a question like that.