I received a letter about Wells becoming a Union…. I hope so ….
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Save your sanctimony for the trolls undermining your fellow employees' attempts to better their working conditions. Only one side is still fooled by the pearl clutching calls for decorum.
If you want to work for a union Hostess is hiring bakers, UPS is hiring delivery drivers, and USPS is hiring mailmen.
It's almost like you don't realize that nothing will accelerate outsourcing and contracting like a union. WF would never hire in the US again, and eventually that'd be that. Not that I care I suppose, I'm out for retirement soon, but people really should think things through. Maybe you'd get a few years with slightly higher pay, but it would all come crashing down eventually. A matter of time.
Wells Fargo already belongs to one of these businesses (Sewage treatment), so it qualifies to form a union.
@3itn+1pxejo9K Wtf...Are you new to the US? This thread/board is filled with those clowns whining about outsourcing and DEI while also attacking the only real power (unions) employees have to oppose them.
Other notable union industries:
Utilities
Electrical workers
Steelworkers
Paper mills
Natural gas distribution
Sewage treatment
Air Transportation
Rail Transportation
Public transportation
Postal service
I am pretty sure anyone complains about outsourcing wants union.
Those who benefit from managing h1b hires and outsourcing will not. They are safe enough and typically do not visit Layoff.com.
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Not true. I complain about offshoring fairly often and I don’t spam votes. I occasionally vote but votes mean really don’t matter except maybe the poster feels like others feel the same they do. But it doesn’t change anything!
Stop the juvenile generalizations.
The people on here who complain (rightfully) about offshoring and H1B’s are the same ones who spam downvotes and troll comments on these union posts. They will never, ever put 2 and 2 together and realize they’re being manipulated by the ones doing the offshoring.
Hollywood writers and actors both have unions.
They won't be able to claim that 500 annual skilled labor shortages with a union, and WF will not be able to get that 500 brand new H1B visa workers each year. WF will never let us have a union.
Police and Firefighters have unions but keep telling us how they're terrible and anti-American.
Worked great for Detroit.
Is this just for Iowa employees? I know they have been causing a lot of business disruptions to force unions on everyone.
Well, let's see...
All major sports leagues have player's unions.
The owners are all billionaires, the players millionaires, and everyone seems to be doing pretty, pretty, pretty good.
Not fans who pay silly amounts of money to see a game (pro tip, minor league games are more fun and affordable) and the taxpayers who foot the bill for the billionaires stadiums, but unions in sports don't seem to be the horror show that the anti-union WF shills here claim.
Tesla recently gave everyone working in their German auto plants a raise to hold off unionizing, so even just the threat of a union gave the people who do the actual work a better payday.
I used to be a job where I often had to deal with untion workers. They weren't any better than non-union folks, unless there was a skill involved, but they got to make enough money to own a home, raise a family, and take a nice vacation now and then.
And the "owners" still made millions/billions.
Unions are good for the middle class, history is on the side of unions, unions are not some co---e plot, it's just about having a say in the company where you do all the work.
Follow the money on politicians and think tanks that say otherwise, and you'll find someone very wealthy who is also getting billions in government subsidies (like that Tesla guy).
A union won't solve this companies problems.
Nor is it that panacea people think it will be.
You will have seniority to deal with.
Someone who slacks at their job and is here 12 years and you who work hard every day but have only been here 8 yrs, guess who gets let go?
Take control of your career and move on once u get experience at WF.
It's amazing how the media, owneds by corporations and billionaires, has corrupted the opinions on unions. Most of the arguments here against a union are actually reasons for unionization.
Thanks for voting against your own interests while begging for the shillings that the ruling class allow us to have.
Every union is winning right now. Our company, shooting itself in the foot prior to next year, wouldn't be as easy for them to do if we had a union to negotiate.
Anyone that thinks unions are bad, I
Is a victim of capitalism.
I have never been a member of a union and having been the child of a former autoworker who never benefited by forced (coerced) union membership, I doubt that I'll take part in any WF union efforts.
No you didn’t.
Stop with the stereotypes. There's thousands of managers here, the majority of which haven't done anything wrong other than choosing to work here. The only 'you people' are in Hudson Yards. That's where all the evil and illegal cr-p comes from.
You corrupt managers have caused enough damages over the years by doing unethical and illegal things. You guys need to be punished.
I don't want to be in a union. That said, if WF does unionize it's 1000% the fault of garbage executives who's "great idea for fixing the company" is to torment all employees with an endless series of indignities and corporate busywork BS. No one was talking about unions until those POSs in Hudson Yards came along. Every person in that building has earned a Needs Improvement rating and should be fired. Mail room guy to the CEO, they all need to go.
In Develop You, managers now have a required training about how to recognize organizing and/or grievance activity, and both the laws and policy about what to do/not do when it is observed/experienced.
The training itself is legit, following the spirit and letter of the laws and regs. This is the first time i've seen it though, and i've been here and managing people for 11 years.
This indicates to me that there is enough talk/activity that WF needs to ensure that managers need awareness/training so they don't do illegal things relative to organizing/grievance activity
Amen. Unions do nothing but sc--w the heck out of people that want to try to make 110k+ for the rest of their lives. They’re more designed for people who want to hover around the 40-60k range and call out of work about twice a month or so.
It won’t appeal to the rest of us who make $110k + we will be un-hireable elsewhere. No other bank would hire us being part of a union. Fact. It’s the pox to other banks.
Many of us aren’t making WF our only job (sorry it’s not the 60s or 70s - people change jobs. It’s abnormal to work for ONE company most of our career).
Oh I absolutely work at wells in the branch network. Have seen many employees abuse intermittent FMLA (this runs rampant in the branches). Don’t tell me that we don’t “care” about these wonderful people. We literally can’t hold them accountable for anything and they get rewarded because they scare us all shitless.
They seem to have gone to almost every employee in my area that works in a branch.
@azz tell me you don’t work at Wells Fargo without telling me you don’t work at Wells Fargo.
No chance whatsoever. Post the text of the letter.
Union members are so lazy it’s just unreal. Always wanting free stuff.
Talking about it work/life balance… do you even work at this company?! We basically give unlimited time away for any reason whatsoever. We give like a year paid paternity leave. It’s unreal.
It's not happening.
What a great experience that would be: you go in and ask to open an account, and get to twalk to a guy in overalls who looks at you sideways while exchanging glances with his teammates, on a rainy day in New Jersey, then the guy asks you to step outside to sign the rest of the documents in his car 'cos he forgot some forms there, nothing to worry about ...
Less we forget..
Wells Fargo is
Profits above reputation
Profits above common decency
Profits above effective leadership
Profits above common sense
Profits above it’s Mission Statement
Profits above longer-term success
Profits above a healthy culture
Profits above credibility
Profits above Investments and innovation
Profits above responsibility
Profits above ethical practices
Profits above relationships
Profits above excellence
Profits above communities
Profits above doing what’s right for customers
Profits above employee well-being
Profits above respect
Profits above America
Had to look back a few posts, but there’s legs to this.
https://betterbanks.org/wfwu
Wells Fargo Workers United
We are Wells Fargo employees forming a union to improve our working conditions;
making a better Wells Fargo for workers & customers.
Proper Staffing
We need adequate staffing levels to reduce stress levels, enable humane workloads and set attainable performance metrics.
Better Pay
We want a fair raise for ALL employees commensurate with the 30% increase to the starting minimum wage.
Work Life Balance
We demand safe and flexible work arrangements along with time-off benefits that recognize all of our needs, duties and responsibilities.
Respect
Respect our right to organize an independent voice at work free from fear of retaliation or harassment.
7 simple steps to start a union
- Talk to your coworkers.
The first step is straightforward: Talk to your coworkers and find out what they think about the workplace.
- Find a union and build an organizing committee.
A traditional union—sometimes called a trade union or labor union—will ideally have the staff, resources, and expertise to kickstart the process and represent you in negotiations.
- Build support.
Lead organizers put together a list of all the workers at the store so they could make a plan to talk with everyone.
- Sign cards, file for recognition, and hold an election.
Once you’ve built enough support to go public, the next step is to sign union cards indicating that you would like to be represented by the union you’re working with for the purposes of collective bargaining. You or your union representative then files the union cards with the NLRB, usually electronically.
- Prepare yourselves for union busting and retaliation.
Once management knows you’re organizing, keep an eye out for union busting. Hired firms may train leaders and middle managers to spread misinformation about how unions operate or instill fear in workers through retaliatory tactics.
- Form a bargaining committee and negotiate a contract.
Once you’ve won an election, it’s time to actually negotiate with your bosses about what changes you want to see. The bargaining unit—everyone who will be in the union—should first elect a bargaining committee. These rank-and-file workers will be the key group to represent the unit in meetings with management.
- Make a plan to maintain momentum.
Prepare yourself for a potentially arduous process. You might spend months organizing, and then many more months negotiating before you reach that coveted contract. The average time it takes for employers and new union workers to finalize their first collective bargaining agreement is 465 days, according to a Bloomberg Law analysis.
and that letter is F