Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

And so it begins, cheerio ANI....

ANI job losses hitting the local media

https://www.irishnews.com/business/2023/10/12/news/scores_of_staff_facing_axe_as_allstate_ni_starts_restructuring_process-3689111/

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/job-losses-to-be-announced-at-northern-ireland-it-giant/a829507845.html

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Post ID: @OP+1p2c950o

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  1. ...Got an email that I'd be having a Zoom meeting with my area manager one morning in October 23.....2 hours later was told I was gone.....no explanation, warning or reason after almost 20 years.........it's all coming down the pipe.....the work was sent to India and the Area director was in India and my new manager (with broken English at best) was my manager who hadn't a clue........Now its October 24 and my friend in a different ANI department/area has told me he's being laid off.......ANI really don't like you enjoying your Christmas 🎄.
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Post ID: @6Bbii+1p2c950o

More jobs gone today

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Post ID: @32pwo+1p2c950o

A couple directors have left the North West now and one in particular won't be missed (Barber) - an ignorant man. Plus, he seems to have had form leaving sinking ships!

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Post ID: @1kqmn+1p2c950o

Any word of a reorganization or more redundancies.
They have managed to salvage some good men, but they had to take lesser roles (which makes me think, those employee's will be looking elsewhere and so Allstate doesn't have to caulk them up as redundancies - as they left of their own volition).

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Post ID: @1jgna+1p2c950o

Are we expecting another wave of cuts in January ?

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Post ID: @migv+1p2c950o

O

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Post ID: @imkt+1p2c950o

At least some of the Senior Management\Directors have fallen on their swords, and done the honourable thing....and left, before they got fired!!!

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Post ID: @cxho+1p2c950o

Worked for Allstate and left two years ago then left for a better position elsewhere. I had noticed that the management was not clear where they'd been striving towards. PO's and project managers were all looking each other on what to propose, ultimately copying each other. More importantly, some senior managers were duplicating cloud solutions from the other companies like Google or Amazon and selling as their idea!!

This company needs to eliminate those parasites holding the corners rather than laying off decent workers.

Until then, just wait and see many more quarters with loss and cuts.

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Post ID: @6ooz+1p2c950o

The sackings will continue until morale improves.

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Post ID: @5xmc+1p2c950o

At least the empire building is still very much in place, even with the so-called removal of DCIOs. You can't challenge decisions made from UP HIGH regardless of how bad they appear to be. Don't worry about backing up your arguments with facts and data about end-user impacts. You might as well be pi----g in the wind, but it's OK because you're ticking off a goal for a senior manager and they'll get their bonus this year even though the company is haemorrhaging customers.

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Post ID: @5who+1p2c950o

Many years ago I worked in an organization that, through M&A, was merged with a "software factory".

All I can say is: RUN AWAY!

(But kudos to Suren for adopting a 20 year old failed fad ... very much "on brand" there champ!)

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Post ID: @5mjz+1p2c950o

"Let's face it - Suren was the wrong person to lead IT, and it was obvious almost right from the start. He was much too old-school, as could be seen when he managed to get rid of most of the leadership of CompoZed just as they started to actually do really good stuff which had the potential to completely transform things. To go back to an old-fashioned PMO model and start doing SAFe was absolutely criminal.

But yet, everyone else has to pay for his mistakes."

Yep. And let's not forget he has set the blueprint going forward with this asinine 'software factory' model. Because good, innovative, talented people are going to want to come to work here and be treated like a giant pipe to push work through. By a management team who cannot decide what their priority is and have no earthly clue how to respond to dynamic markets.

Not to mention all the middle management id--ts who are mostly out to make a name for themselves and pursuing their own agendas. Those are the people who need to be RIF'd because they're the ones who continually tank the latest flavor for the day 'thing' like 'Transformative Growth' or 'Affordable, Simple, Connected.'

The damage done to Allstate's ability to deliver by Suren and his toadies can't be over stated. I'm not sure the company ever comes back from it. Too far behind the pin now. And this week I hear the officers are meeting off site some place to continue their turf battles.

Meanwhile good people on whom this mismanagement was foisted get to pay the price for said mismanagement. Please don't refer to our managers as 'leaders' because they aren't and never have been.

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Post ID: @5gpg+1p2c950o

There are leaders in ANI with as little as 2 team members. Others with 25. A leader can have multiple teams, it's the management that needs restructuring. Remove some leaders and give a few small teams to 1. It's the leaders on the big Bucks, 1 leader can equal 2 on a low band

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Post ID: @4ccs+1p2c950o

Is that redundancy package for people in the USA or Northern Ireland? Not sure how many employees in Northern Ireland have Allstate shares.

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Post ID: @4jdg+1p2c950o

People are now saying that it's

  • 1 weeks pay for every year of service or 1.5 weeks if you don't talk about it!!!!
  • If you have equity (shares) that you will get a basic point above the market rate (if you wish to sell them now)
  • A one-off redundancy lump sum payment based on your role (not sure how this is calculated)
  • Plus double any holiday entitlements you have left, if you wish to take the cash

I have to admit, a decent offer - not sure the guys got this last year!!!

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Post ID: @4svw+1p2c950o

It may not seem like it now, but i think the ones who leave now on enhanced redundancy are the lucky ones. More going to leave in next 6-12 months of own choice because of all this.

And don't be baited by the reskilling courses, if they really wanted certain people to reskill they'd have selected them for it and not made them interview, risking thousands of their redundancy in process.

Get out there and good luck

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Post ID: @4ois+1p2c950o

The word on the street is saying 10% of staff and if the papers are to be correct that might be right as it's expected to be between 150-200 people in ANI getting let go!
As for Columb, it's widely know in the NW that he got let go, the man is a genius, easily the smartest guy in the office - there is no way they can replace him....I think his name is just mentioned for that reason as he would of taken the higher package and not talked about it, but his way of saying pha-q and I'll take your money!
He actually may become the leader of the resistance, the fight back begins!!!

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Post ID: @3qss+1p2c950o

Any figure on the number of employee's getting let go from North West office
or what dept's are effected?

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Post ID: @3nve+1p2c950o

Whoever posted that name, delete it. If it’s true then that is cruel. FFS

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Post ID: @2kia+1p2c950o

So sad to see a very senior architect and all round nice guy get caught up in all this, I hope every thing works our for you Columb Duffy.

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Post ID: @2tob+1p2c950o

Those who have lost their jobs I hope they have sufficient in-demand skills to find work very soon. My heart goes out to them.

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Post ID: @2yao+1p2c950o

ANI was too full of team leaders, project managers and scrum masters who didnt do anything of value. Time to trim the tree of the dead wood and only employ people who create real software and add real value

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Post ID: @2ikn+1p2c950o

Suren was the bridge to cheap labor in India. That was his sole purpose, nothing more and nothing less

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Post ID: @2jrm+1p2c950o

Another Pramerica (Letterkenny) coming down the line...all the same traits!

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Post ID: @2rlx+1p2c950o

Let's face it - Suren was the wrong person to lead IT, and it was obvious almost right from the start. He was much too old-school, as could be seen when he managed to get rid of most of the leadership of CompoZed just as they started to actually do really good stuff which had the potential to completely transform things. To go back to an old-fashioned PMO model and start doing SAFe was absolutely criminal.

But yet, everyone else has to pay for his mistakes.

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Post ID: @2ary+1p2c950o

This is a shot across the bow for all Allstate employee's. I have been in the industry for nearly 30 years (mostly in the North West) and I have been at the blunt end of redundancies in the past - not a nice place....but YOU will get past this.

The landscape of the IT industry within Northern Ireland and even the North West has improved vastly in the last decade, some really good IT companies in the town now...not just Mom & Pop shops, but companies that will pay you a good wage for your skillset.

My thoughts are with all those that lost their job, and remember, you will get past this!

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Post ID: @2gjw+1p2c950o

Cannot wait for the next Town Hall, perhaps 2 quizzes at the start and 3 Transformation videos next time so even less can be said.
Has the new fella done anything of note since he came in?

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Post ID: @2roa+1p2c950o

Suren, responsible for the mess that IT is in. Julfie, part of the Indian caste inner circle ruling Allstate IT . Kamal , truly a joke! The man has no IT background! Zero! Anyone who is any good is let go. See Zulfie’s latest org announcement. Look yet another caste Indian becomes a direct report. Get those joker’s out. They are driving Allstate to bankruptcy.

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Post ID: @2qaf+1p2c950o

Rinse the ba----ds for every penny you can

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Post ID: @1pkm+1p2c950o

This has been so obvious since last year. Every single time a person left, not one time was their job role reposted in the past 2 years.

John Healy didn't just pack up and leave for no reason. He knew it was coming and got out before the sh-t hit the fan.

More job cuts are guaranteed in 2024 and by 2025 ANI will go gone. Stick around if you can to collect your severance pay, especially if you have been there a good few years!

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Post ID: @1rmd+1p2c950o

Just found out that a respected PMO director with deep technical skills was impacted. He had only been with the company six months. I had a lot of respect for him. Sorry to see him go.

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Post ID: @1mxo+1p2c950o

This is coming from the top. The likes of Zulfi and Suren are making a series of bad decisions. There's been an ever-increasing atmosphere of discontent over these decisions since late last year with the organisational changes, removing people managers, forcing tech leads into management roles etc. Supposedly this is all dressed up internally as a way to increase speed to market but it's clearly just a cost-cutting exercise. It's been fooling no one and it's having a huge impact on code/application quality and systems availability. Personally, I have zero faith that Zulfi and Suren have the ability to lead the company out of the slump and judging by the morale of those I see around me in the office when I go in, I am not alone.

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Post ID: @1mph+1p2c950o

Do you mean the "inner circle" that volunteer their time ON TOP of their delivery roles to try and make ANI a safer and nicer place to work?
How are bitter comments like that helping anyone here. Everyone is feeling this right now no matter if they're in the "inner circle" or not. Nobody agrees with what's going on here, don't be taking it out on people who have absolutely nothing to do with, or no control over what's happening.

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Post ID: @1lsk+1p2c950o

What about the super valuable Diversity and Inclusion inner circle? Surely some of them are impacted to ensure layoffs are diversified :D

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Post ID: @1vue+1p2c950o

cyber security department affected?

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Post ID: @1fpz+1p2c950o

Did the ANI follow the UK Governments consultation process? This applies if they are making more than 20 people redundant, if they didn’t then the impacted staff may have a case against the company for unfair dismissal. Here is the .Gov.UK link https://www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/consultation

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Post ID: @1dlx+1p2c950o

Sackings are definitely continuing to happen today in ANI. I dont understand what people have been saying that its the end of them, for I got a HR meeting only today and not yesterday with the majority. I thought it was the end of the cuts but I was wrong...

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Post ID: @1lgm+1p2c950o

Sackings continuing in NI this afternoon as we speak. A few more colleagues given redundancy packages in the last hours. Our team not yet hit but very nervous all around. Sad as those cute were most lovely.

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Post ID: @1sta+1p2c950o

I think people really need to take a step back and realise that the every day workers had NO choice or say in what happened. We're heartbroken over losing our friends and work family. Your comments are NOT HELPING!!!

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Post ID: @1cwb+1p2c950o

I think coming for certain groups who have not been impacted by the redundancies directed just as of yet is unnecessary and feels like a targeted comment. Yesterday was a tough day for everyone, insulting the work that other areas do because you don’t see it as valuable isn’t helping the horrible feeling amongst the whole organisation currently, don’t attack those who are just being told to get on with it and do their jobs.

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