Did anyone have success getting accepted for a different internal position?
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I personally did get an offer and avoided surplus. However, I have a strong internal network, it really was a position elimination (not performance based), and it was coordinated in advance with the hiring manager that I would be competing for it. I still had to interview and win but it DOES still happen, just much more unusual with this 14 day timeline - it was much easier for everyone when it was 60 days.
Yes, I know of 2 who found alternate positions outside of the organization they were surplussed.
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Thank you sir, may I have another?
"All impacted get a 'R' in Their HR attribute file 'Do not hire' and a # Risk from 1-3 associated with type of offboarding."
not true
Understandably, the odds are VERY slim finding an internal job when you only have two weeks left on the clock vs. the former 60 days, to look for a job.
When this change was made to 2 weeks.
It was McElfresh that said we have no place for you.
Poster of below here. My teammate who was laid off on 6/22, started posting immediately, and was hired and started within a week. The person was ranked 1st on our team and a perfect fit for the job. I’m sure there was some internal pushing. However, while it may be rare, you CAN apply for an internal job and possibly be hired within the two week period…
“Hi. Just FYI. One of my team members was laid off (non sales job) on 6/22 and did find an internal job (in sales). Requires in office in a hub. So if there is a job posted internally and impacted, then why not apply? Surplussed folks are supposed to get priority as long as they have a clean internal record (no COBC violations etc)”
No, folks being surplussed with 14 day window are not eligible for internal positions. You will need to look external.
When they changed the time to 2 weeks and you’re out, what did they say? Something like ‘we changed it to 2 weeks because there are no jobs here for you, May as well not drag out the inevitable, we don’t want you.’ I am paraphrasing but it went something like that.
I can confidently say that 1-5% of surplussed management are placed in another position before their effective date. Just think how long application processes are. Often positions are open for a week, then it takes the hiring manager another week to start setting up interviews. You have better chances using that time to look externally unless you have a solid network of internal leaders.
"Surplussed folks are supposed to get priority as long as they have a clean internal record (no COBC violations etc)"
Yeah, and T is "supposed" to be a visionary, leading-edge tech company, but that ain't true either.
Leaving aside the question of what sort of masochist would intentionally re-apply to T after all of this, the answer is almost certainly that nobody let go has found a new place within the company.
I've been through all of the many layoffs since 2015, when T invaded DTV and introduced the quarterly layoffs to the surprised Directv folks. It amounted to over 10 layoffs all together, and I survived all of them until I was chopped in Oct of 2020. In all that time and all those layoffs I never heard of a single instance in which an impacted person found a new position except for once -- a colleague of mine (also a DTV person) in Denver who was set to be released in 2019, but found a new place before her leave-by date. Naturally, she was laid off in the first round of 2020 layoffs, so she basically bought herself about 6 months.
So, I guess it's possible to avoid the axe with an internal hire, but it seems even then it's just buying a bit of time before the inevitable.
Besides, why on earth would anyone want to stay?
It’s like begging a cheating spouse to come back. If you feel good that you’ve found something inside, remember how surprised you were when you were told your job was going away. It’s like bailing water out of a row boat with a leak…
Hi. Just FYI. One of my team members was laid off (non sales job) on 6/22 and did find an internal job (in sales). Requires in office in a hub. So if there is a job posted internally and impacted, then why not apply? Surplussed folks are supposed to get priority as long as they have a clean internal record (no COBC violations etc)
Everyone impacted is not re-hirable? That makes no sense
Because it's not true
Who in earth want to go back to T again after being humiliated and terminated
Fool me once shame on you Fool me twice shame on me
No. When you’re cut now, you’ve got 2 weeks and you aren’t eligible to apply internally. You can leave and come back, but I haven’t seen anyone get surplused and come back in a very long time.
The only instances I have seen HR set the No Rehire flag was when termination was because of COBC, AP investigation, attendance or termination for cause. When a mgr recommends the NH for any other reason, HR asks for an explanation which they may/may not support.
No internal offers.
Everyone impacted is not re-hirable? That makes no sense
All impacted get a 'R' in Their HR attribute file 'Do not hire' and a # Risk from 1-3 associated with type of offboarding.