They need to cut costs to meet Free Cash Flow commitments, and are doing it by using RTO with relocation to force out workers. Would you be willing to take a pay cut to stay where you are and continue to Work from Home, with a multi-year commitment to allow continued WFH for anyone who takes the pay cut? If so, what percent pay cut would you be willing to take? Anyone have better suggestions for meeting FCF and saving jobs or see a reason this wouldn't work to save jobs?
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I have taken pay cuts. Raises aren’t near the inflation rate.
T is a joke. They make cr-p up (collaboration) and as an excuse to try to cover and make up for all the stupid decisions they have made. Every time the wind blows ... their rug gets shaken and all the trash they have swept under it starts flying. They will never be able to cover their sc--w-ups but will continue to make employees lives miserable until either they are fired or they totally drive it into the ground. I'm over it. I put in my time and try to do a good job but my days of having stress over this place are long gone. They don't deserve the right to stress me. I'm on the outside looking in. I see a joke.
I am worried that I have gotten so used to doing so little WFH that I will be totally exposed when I go back into the office. I'm going to be gone for sure.
No pay cut. Just work at home, doing my own chores and running my errands. Life is good.
You are missing the whole point! The company wants you gone. Especially if you are close to MR75. RTO is an effort to get employees to quit. Nothing to do with collaboration, nothing.
Stankey taking a pay cut? Legg?
No?
Then fffffffff...orgetaboutit.
Nothing - I’m actually underpaid for my position, knowledge, & skill set but I’m less than 4 years away from full service pension
I also had 33 days of PTO until 2 years ago but again being so close to a HUGE bump in my pension plan I decided to bite the bullet and stay
My team has been working from home for years before COVID-19 because sometimes we have off hours work or major systems we have supported needed is available more off hours than it justifies making us go into the office
I won’t wh--e myself out to AT&T for alot less than what I’m worth; Even though I’m close to full pension there is enough pressure points AT&T could push that would make me walk away but we haven’t quite gotten there yet….
“ The poster of @rhv+1niawUMe reminds me a standard L3 manager which hasn't any clue what her/his team is really doing, but is eager to push a nose in each L4+ a-s anytime.”
Just so you know, from an HR perspective, there’s not much difference between L4 and L3. So no, I don’t know any L3s that feel the need to stick their noses in any of the L4 as-es. Such an ignorant statement.
I can’t get past this workforce who complains and complains about what a horrible employer T is to work for. Yet everyone wants to sue or take pay cuts to keep their jobs . What the heck. You know you got it made at T. I work here I know. Times have changed. Accept it and move on. You have all the answers, skills and knowledge. You are in high demand.
Or not.
"No one should be working at a designated office location and feel that they don’t know anyone. "
We Todd did.
The poster of @rhv+1niawUMe reminds me a standard L3 manager which hasn't any clue what her/his team is really doing, but is eager to push a nose in each L4+ a-s anytime.
My job doesn't require me to "collaborate" with anyone & I've been doing it for 17 years remotely. I have no office to "RTO".
"Collaboration with other employees outside your department can help gain perspective of other parts of the business."
Then you don't understand the meaning of the word 'collaboration'.
collaboration
/kəˌlabəˈreɪʃn/
noun
the action of working with someone to produce something.
The shallow perspective is probably not something, what you want to sell to customer - maybe you want, based on your post I guess you are one of the lunatics possesed by ideas of all mighty offices.
“without permanent distraction by people which I don't know at all.”
No one should be working at a designated office location and feel that they don’t know anyone. Collaboration with other employees outside your department can help gain perspective of other parts of the business.
A coworker actually asked a few years ago is he/she could take a pay cut instead of being laid off, before any announcements. Of course, they were just laid off in the very next round.
Why? I save company $$$ at home and do the job without permanent distraction by people which I don't know at all. Anybody, who is unable to collaborate in 21th century through IP and works for communication technology company should 'rethink' ...
Moot and a waste of time and energy to what-if things that are not an option.
i took a paycut the last two years already by not getting a raise to match inflation.
My office is only 6 miles from my house. I use about 2 bucks of gas a day. Sure take ten bucks a week and let me stay at home.
Never happen.
- No company would give a contract to entry level and mid-level managers for a term of employment. Reserved for CEOs. The company's hands would be tied to manage their business. Union contracts offer no guarantees either.
- Reducing pay for WFH positions would open the door for discrimination law suits - doing the same job as another person who comes into an office.
- Many states are 'Employment at will' laws that negate this. And for the states that do not, what if an employee had a contract for reduced wages and 2 years of guaranteed employment, then left after one year for a higher salary, would they be sued for breaking the contract without cause? Works both ways.
If any company has to increase cash flow, the playbook is always the same. Increase sales and/or reduce expenses by head count, capital expenditures, training, etc. Headcount most always yields the biggest impact because of the associated yearly salary and indirect expenses (benefits, overhead, real-estate, taxes, etc.). Companies get better Wall Street press when they reduce headcount as opposed to cutting back travel as an example.
Unfortunately, some companies do a better job at managing the process than others, and don't wait until they are in the ICU.
Collaboration is a made up word. Even if employees were to actually collaborate and come up with good ideas, management wouldn’t listen to them any way because they already know everything better than everyone else.
No.
The majority of the technology staff is already underpaid compared to industry standards. Our ability to WFH was one of the primary perks that made this tolerable.
They deserve what they get if they continue with RTO as planned.
I would agree to a 50% pay cut to continue to telecommute for the next ten years.
WFH just doesn’t provide the required opportunities for regular and direct collaboration with team members. This isn’t an option.