Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Group - no option to move

This is a group (happens to be six people, all L2s) under the same EVP that I work with closely. This seems strange and if I get more info, I'll post it, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

In May this group was told that RTO/Dallas was coming, like many of us. They did not get anything in writing nor did they submit anything to the company stating a decision, as there was no decision to make. But a few of them told their director that they'd probably not move if it came to it. Their director isn't a bad guy so nobody believes he did anything underhanded.

But today they were told by the director that they'd be receiving surplus notifications on June 22nd. There's no option to move, and the director was not aware that a surplus was declared. He found out and told them as soon as he knew.

I'm not saying surplus is unexpected, but this specific situation seems very strange to me. Thought I'd post.

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Post ID: @OP+1nepMJF0

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Go and look at the att.com/jobs posting. There are hundreds of jobs posted for outside hires and very little for inside transfers. Strange that they would surplus and at the same time post jobs just last week.

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Post ID: @1kwz+1nepMJF0

Not strange. They’re still having layoffs in addition to the RTO announcement. These are business as usual moves impacting groups based on their job function.

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Post ID: @1lcv+1nepMJF0

It could be the people in Orlando I walked by every day and their department is called the return mail center. LOL who gives a s*** if there's a return piece of mail from a customer, just keep charging them till they don't pay anymore.

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Post ID: @1wxu+1nepMJF0

AT&T can’t survive without these six people.

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Post ID: @1yxk+1nepMJF0

In February, a group of six that I worked closely with all got surplused on a Friday morning. There was nobody left to do the work or drive that area of the business. These were L2 revenue-producing technical people. Made little sense. There was also a surplus of an entire team (Director included) in FirstNet. Again, completely caught the team off-guard. I expect more of this to happen and it sounds like the news is making its way to the AVP and Directors to have conversations with their teams in the next day or so.

Even if you’re in Dallas or Atlanta, you are not safe.

And it doesn’t look like Leadership (VP and AVP) can pull strings anymore to save certain people. It’s a numbers game and they are all just trying to save the number to maintain enough span of control to stay relevant and employed themselves. They wish they had more people already in Dallas since they know most of their team won’t move and they can’t backfill everyone. Smaller groups = more consolidation of L4 and L3 teams.

Still have a job, but I can’t imagine how much work will be dumped on those remaining.

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Post ID: @1hdg+1nepMJF0

It probably means someone up the chain at AVP or VP level decided to just lop that off and not get into asking those people to move or wondering if they would.

My AVP knows who is indispensible or at least knows who to ask to find out, but the VP doesn't know that unless he gets that input.

If the FMP in a given org is large you could see them just trying to cut and run on this and avoid all the uncertainty. If you have a 1000+ pawns on your chessboard, you don;t get attached to them.

Sucks but it's reality.

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Post ID: @1owv+1nepMJF0

Post from TheLayoff.com

They did not get the option to move, and were told their job was eliminated. No severance, but did have option of 3 dates to leave.

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Post ID: @1jme+1nepMJF0

I have heard of this happening to an individual who would have to move (273 miles). They were looking to move, but then was surpluses, Her boss didn’t know

Did you "hear" if this person officially received anything related to RTO and his status/ need to relocate? When you "heard" this, was it clear he was surplused today"

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Post ID: @lrt+1nepMJF0

I heard of this too, meaning: not everyone remote will be asked to RTO. Not even close. And only those who walk on water will be given any kind of help with a relo. Also heard by eoy 30% of the company will be gone. Someone asked on another thread for the “source”; these are the conversations that go on at dinners between executives and their ilk. This isn’t the kind of news that’s shouted thru megaphones at company town halls. You overhear it. And pretend you didn’t. Then you give people a heads up. Then they do or don’t do anything with that info. _(ツ)_/¯

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Post ID: @fmj+1nepMJF0

They have laid off entire groups before. Remember DEC?

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Post ID: @lla+1nepMJF0

Enterprise markets… ge-z. That’s scary and a bit close to home.

Was nervous before but now even more so.

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Post ID: @ycx+1nepMJF0

Can you imagine having a team of 6 people that do so much nothing that surplussing them all is just not an hugely impacting decision? I mean, the writing should’ve already been on the wall for that team. In permanent ink.

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Post ID: @rjv+1nepMJF0

"All 6 people are being laid off? What do they actually do that it’s no impact at all to get rid of them all? Seems… unusual."

That's just it, They are actually critical. I heard about it because a lot of stakeholders are running around asking wtf they're going to do without these people, like what are they even thinking about giving them two weeks when there's no plan whatsoever to compensate for their jobs? All I can say is very important things in the sales process will just stop dead in their tracks. Revenue affecting.

Even their director didn't know. I am a director and we always identified candidates for surplus after being given numbers. That's why I found this so strange.

They're under Enterprise Markets.

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Post ID: @utx+1nepMJF0

I have heard of this happening to an individual who would have to move (273 miles). They were looking to move, but then was surpluses, Her boss didn’t know

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Post ID: @vro+1nepMJF0

Offload their work to Tech Manindra..Standard Operating Process

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Post ID: @zxb+1nepMJF0

Nothing too strange. After further evaluation they decided to surplus these folks. Nothing was communicated to them officially about RTO, just like the majority of us and as they worked through the surplus process these folks were included.

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Post ID: @ulh+1nepMJF0

So they are finally getting rid of the yellow pages team?

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Post ID: @qxx+1nepMJF0

What org? Or initials of org/SVP?

All 6 people are being laid off? What do they actually do that it’s no impact at all to get rid of them all? Seems… unusual.

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Post ID: @div+1nepMJF0

Hm. Strange indeed. I was asked a couple of times how I felt about moving, and I dodged those questions. Without going into too many details, I 100% expect to either be asked to move, which I won't do, or just surplussed, so it's all the same to me. Although possible I suppose, I really doubt anyone would be able to fly under the radar this time, so the sooner they get it over with, the better, IMO.

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