Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Congratulations on buying yourself some time, that was cagey. Now get your resume in order and start applying: LinkedIn, Indeed, even local temp agencies where you can be placed on an assignment that could turn into an offer for full time employment. If you went to college sync up with you alumnus and network. Reach out to anyone you've worked who’s moved on and ask for any kind of help. Don’t forget local government jobs: great benefits and you have to literal commit a felony to be fired. Start applying to anything and everything now. It’s a laborious process but do it. It’s a numbers game much akin to dating. I’d write for every 100 jobs you apply to canned responses not including you’ll probably get 15 - 25 (if you’re lucky) genuine non-bot emails to schedule a call; a few of those will turn into second calls, a one or two of those into face-to-face meetings, and one or two of those into an offer. START now. By accepting the RTO and ultimately not following thru I’m not sure if you’ve negated eligibility for unemployment but I’d look into that now. And if you can take your lump sum payout when you do leave I’d take the tax hit and do it. No one ever think their company will pull an Enron, but decision-making at the C-level is questionable at best. Take the money and run. Good luck to you. Apply apply apply and network network network.

In response to:
"Plenty of military members leave their families for months at a time for the job. My dad’s Army base was 400 miles away, a 6hr drive, for 3 yrs. We needed the medical insurance and he needed a few more years to reach full retirement. We survived it."

Thank your dad for serving.
That said, if he drove 400 Miles one way each day... He's an id--t (respectfully).
However, I'm sure he was stationed there and was given shelter, food, money, etc.
I'm sure any of us would take that offer of T provided accommodations like the military does.

U b screwed. Best you can pray for now is to be terminated for failing to report on the required date, and get a 6 month severance. And that's best case. Worst case is no severance, u out on street. Good luck. This all highly sux for a great many of us.

I forgot about the high interest rates affecting the type of house you could buy in the new location. If I were you, I'd find something else and leave ATT. It's not worth the lower quality of life, and they'll treat you worse after they know how far you were willing to go to keep your job.

"I had to accept the RTO offer to keep my job but I can’t move"

Cool story bro!!!!

“… My dad’s Army base was 400 miles away, a 6hr drive, for 3 yrs. We needed the medical insurance and he needed a few more years to reach full retirement. We survived it.
Not even close to an analogy. I'll bet your Military Dad got to retire, and he had housing those 400 miles away. Military members don't have the threat losing their job in 6 months after they relocate. AT&T doesn't provide housing either amigo.”

Wasn’t meant to be an analogy. Was meant as option 3. There’s more than 2 options. I definitely wouldn’t go “all in” with the layoff threat.

"Enough excuses. Enough personal errands on company time. Time to get back in the office and work for your pay."

And I would have no problem with that, but when they're closing an office near me, in a city where I lived for most of my life, and demand we move across the country, it's not quite that easy, you know?

You have come to the right place seeking advice

Enough excuses. Enough personal errands on company time. Time to get back in the office and work for your pay.

Plenty of military members leave their families for months at a time for the job. My dad’s Army base was 400 miles away, a 6hr drive, for 3 yrs. We needed the medical insurance and he needed a few more years to reach full retirement. We survived it.

Not even close to an analogy. I'll bet your Military Dad got to retire, and he had housing those 400 miles away. Military members don't have the threat losing their job in 6 months after they relocate. AT&T doesn't provide housing either amigo.

Plenty of military members leave their families for months at a time for the job. My dad’s Army base was 400 miles away, a 6hr drive, for 3 yrs. We needed the medical insurance and he needed a few more years to reach full retirement. We survived it.

Don't mess with Texas!

"without discussing with HR"

Spoken like someone who has never actually tried to discuss something with anyone in HR. As if they would even know the answer to a question one would ask...

Even if fake accept the offer, ride the ins, 401k match, pension accumulation, and full pay. Quit or retire the day before reporting.

If I ever get a letter like that, this is the last place I would come to for advice. Especially after the fact 😂!

Sorry … I say fake. RTO is not an ‘offer’ to be considered- it’s a requirement/mandate. The offer , if you get one, is to move in order to keep your position.
If you qualify for severance and you turn it down , saying you will move or comply with their terms and then don’t … well you lost your opportunity for severance.
Can’t see how any professional would agree blindly without discussing with HR, but then a lot of people make their decisions out of fear I suppose.
However, I’m guessing this post is more trolling. You’d think they have something better to do.

"Several years ago I heard that someone was required to move to Dallas; they tried the rent a room path and it failed. The leadership expects your permeant address to be in that location."

This is false. They don't care where you live as long as you are able to get to the office on time and on your dime.

Several years ago I heard that someone was required to move to Dallas; they tried the rent a room path and it failed. The leadership expects your permeant address to be in that location.

What should you do?

If you have at least 12 years in, look in the mirror and call yourself an id--t, otherwise disregard this post.

I'm guessing you need to be in an office by the end of the year, at which time you will have to quit or be fired for not going to the designated office. Meanwhile, you could have taken the severance and received the same pay for up to six months. You're basically working for free for the next six months.

You are an employee at will. You can leave at anytime.

You deliberately lied and are proud of this?

You’ve already accepted so what’s done is done. Rent a room from someone. Thankfully Atlanta and Dallas real estate isn’t insanely expensive.

Then look for another job during that time.

F***ck people on this board are stupid. The OP can still accept the RTO, rent a cheap room for couple months, perform a lousy job while looking for another job, and then because of bad performance T will lay him off and then he gets the severance. He does not have to deny the RTO right now.

"Sadly, leaders have noted that accepting the RTO 'offer' and failing to show up at the new work location are grounds for termination with cause. This also forfeits any severance you might be eligible for."

And in many states, termination with cause disqualifies people from unemployment benefits. Something to make sure to research and keep in mind.

You should not have accepted then and taken an option to leave with severance.

I also don't think it's a real post, but to give a benefit of a doubt, here is what to do now. You're still not going to keep your job, you only postponed the separation. So all you can do is start looking for a new job. That's it.

Fake post

Troll

What was the time frame for this? I know there are some people on the 18-24 month report date phase, and it seems wild a decision would have to be submitted now. However, if the report date is before the end of this year, you really should not have accepted the offer knowing you would not be able to move. I would talk to your manager or any contact info that was on the letter to see about rescinding your answer. However, if your answer was only verbal (not in any way written like email) you should still be able to answer officially with "no."

You have set yourself up to be terminated with cause!

The company should pay you and let you stay where you are because you have a good excuse.

Hire a temp worker to do your work while you stay @ home

Congrats you just forfeited your severence and will likely be terminated for cause eventually meaning no unemployment. Better start looking for another job asap.

Sadly, leaders have noted that accepting the RTO 'offer' and failing to show up at the new work location are grounds for termination with cause. This also forfeits any severance you might be eligible for. Your best options might be to attempt to rescind your acceptance or ride it out until your relocation date.

This isn't a trick, son. You have two options:

1. Decline their strongarm tactics, take the severance, stay where you are and find a new job
2. Bend the knee, trust the T executives, kiss Stink's ring, overturn your entire life, sell your house (and forfeit the low mortgage), move to Dallas or Atlanta, and then hope and pray that you aren't let go in one of the coming 2024 layoffs -- because you know there is never an end to the layoffs.

I know which I would pick.