Can somebody point me to all the research that shows that WFH is not as (or even more) productive as working at the office? I have seen plenty of papers that show that people who WFH are both more productive and significantly happier. Where's the opposite? And I'm asking about actual research or numbers, not unsubstantiated propaganda.
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The corporate real estate loan market is teetering and more banks will collpase if those mortgages fail. The government and banks asked corporations to help by RTO. Corps also get tax breaks and have to report what zip code a worker works most of the week
RTO is being pushed to help prevent a massive CRE.bail out
I understand what you are saying - at the same time you do realize that RTO requires 1-5 days a month or 3-5 days a week. With that your logic is a bit flawed. The same is true for everyone that has said T does not use its products in the same way they advertise them. Not entirely true. Don’t get me wrong, I think this RTO is nonsense but folks should be more accurate in their comments.
Virtual workers are expected to be in the office 1-5 days a month. Everyone else is 3-5 days a week. I'm not at T now - but have received the official emails (pics) from former team members. 3 days in these situations that I experienced as a manager would not be flawed based on my experience. I probably wasn't explicit or dramatic enough and that was flawed. There were people in my team that I managed before I left that did this several times a week including when they were on PTO. Furthermore, their commute time to the office was pretty lengthy. The main reason they stuck it out is the flexibility of WFH. if f you as a manager expect that kind of response and time when they are pressured to be in the office X number of days a week for X number of hours, you better turn your ringer off before hitting the sack. For most people, 3 days won't be an unreasonable expectation to be fair. I can tell you that "if" it will be up to the manager (L2/L3) to enforce, and if they don't give enough latitude here for people that go above and beyond, they are likely going to get the 2am call or the call at 10am on Saturday morning during their kids soccer game to respond to something. Good managers(Leaders) who understand this, will give latitude to those who deserve it, but when this was introduced in 2019 before Covid, several of my peers were going over VPN reports with a magnifying glass regardless of the situation(because they had no clue). Bad leaders will continue to do that - But, it doesn't matter. Some of the people I'm thinking of from my former team will not uproot themselves and their family and will do better elsewhere when the time comes. It's not just RTO hanging over their heads now, it is relo or leave for these people. The company won't sink from just that, it will be a culmination of all of it and it won't still won't completely sink, it will just grow more bleak and intolerable.
Funny, the company is OK with people working at home when they are called on the weekends/middle of the night to respond to an outage or even work with off-shore team members - employees on my team would join calls very late or very early to coordinate work with them. It's just between the hours of 8-5 that causes a problem I guess.
I understand what you are saying - at the same time you do realize that RTO requires 1-5 days a month or 3-5 days a week. With that your logic is a bit flawed. The same is true for everyone that has said T does not use its products in the same way they advertise them. Not entirely true. Don’t get me wrong, I think this RTO is nonsense but folks should be more accurate in their comments.
Corey Anthony, during his town hall last week, acknowledged their is no way to measure productivity or an increase in collaboration.
Come on, you need proof? The stock keeps going down, missed cash flow targets, no growth, huge debt, it MUST be because everyone’s been working from home. Right? I mean all the problems couldn’t possibly be a result of bad decisions. This is great news, as soon as everyone starts collaborating in person 3-5 days all our problems will be solved and the company will turn around. Right? Praise the l@rd! Amen, our prayers answered! Lol
It’s about reducing headcount, period!
NONE. but that isn't what this is about at all anyway. WFH is lies, lies, lies, to keep you from getting them nailed in court. So get real.
They don’t want you to be happy. They want you miserable so you quit
He is just following the thinking of Elon Musk.
AT&T leadership doesn't have an original thought amongst the lot of them.
Stanley is supporting his brothers who own office buildings and businesses downtown. They bribe him. It will be big scandal when whistleblowers start speaking.
Stop it. It's not about that, and you should know that by now. They don't give a flying flip about productivity. They don't give a flying flip about having the best people.
They DO NOT CARE. Lobbing bo--s is all they are doing, waiting to see the fallout. Critical work is going to stall or stop. THEY DON'T CARE.
Stankey doesn't care about efficiency of workers. He's looking to cut costs and be politically correct with local governments by bringing businesses back (restaurants, coffee shops, parking garages, gas stations) to raise revenue for the business and local government. Who is losing in this deal? The employee.
The proof WFH is less efficient is right alongside the "proof" that vaccines don't work, the 2020 election was rigged, and that California fires are started by jewish space lasers.
The proof really is from March 2020 when many started WFH. Work didn't stop. But, many worked from home prior to that, because it made no sense to go to an office when teammates and business partners were spread out all over. So, force relocation for everyone and that problem is solved. Yeah, there are cases where people abused it, worked 2 jobs, ect (that isn't new to covid. I knew someone in the early 2000s that did that and it took his manager/team to realize it and he was eventually fired). I don't know if the abuse was rare or common, but i suspect rare. Anyone that moved somewhere no where near their location in phone was asking for trouble - no doubt.
Funny, the company is OK with people working at home when they are called on the weekends/middle of the night to respond to an outage or even work with off-shore team members - employees on my team would join calls very late or very early to coordinate work with them. It's just between the hours of 8-5 that causes a problem I guess. So, my advice to people is stick to those hours. Heck if the work location has lockers, keep your laptop in there and don't take it home.
How about forcing Stanley to relocate to Mars? Maybe he will quit and no severance will be required because what is he going to with all that cash on Mars?
Can anyone show WFH people actually work?
Just my opinion. Someone else stated that large (Fortune 500) companies are being pushed to get their people back to the office because of real estate. I think there is something to that, when you consider that businesses located close to that real estate in downtown areas are likely closed or suffering after Covid. I know many downtown cities thriving before covide have a ton of vacant real-estate. I can sort of understand that from an RTO perspective especially in areas like Dallas, ect where the company probably got some sort of breaks because having HQ down there is good for the hotels, restaurants ect.
In terms of forced relocation - It's to cut headcount. There was backlash by employees over the last few years - quiet quitting/great resignation. It was definitely an employees market since there was a labor shortage. That growth slowed and companies over-hired in some cases. Since Stanley is a follower, he noticed employer backlash with Elon and other tech and non-tech execs when they started cutting head count, forcing folks back to the office. AT&T jumped on the bandwagon. So, why not use this to cut headcount(vs outright surplus) and get folks into one of the few remaining offices. He's trying to ki-l 2 birds with 1 stone. The problem is that these other companies don't have people spread all over the US/World in most cases due to acquisitions over the last 25+ years. So, the extent of the impact is likely limited RTO .
It's cyclic - the tide will turn again, and these employers that were heavy handed with RTO will be scrambling in a few years to fill jobs again.
It's just going to make AT&T look even worse to shareholders. It's just one more horrible decision on top of a pile that put AT&T in the position it is today.
Yes, the scientific paper Stanley sent last week has all the proof that working in the office causes brain damage.
yep - this is about hdct reductions and getting people to leave/quit on their own. hard to believe the company that touts "anywhere, anytime connections" is forcing folks into a few locations. They know exactly what they are doing..
and with the stock price imploding, this once great company is a shell of its former self.
Stankey, most of the leadership team and the BOD need to be replaced.
This isn't about WFH. It's about cutting the workforce by a significant number.