Why would anyone in that group still give their all?
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@qq and are the other Indian employees who replace the original Indians cheaper and better OR more expensive and worse ?
IBM India HR hiring is done primarily through the IBM India Friends and Family plan which means cheaper isn't always better AND the quality of the new hires is awful and going down steadily.
In the end, you get what you pay for. If You pay peanuts, you hire monkeys. That is Arvind's and Nickel's legacies at IBM - hiring monkeys. Which is why IBM is in the depressing state that it currently is. And it ain't coming back anytime soon.
@p1 Im GenX. I have plenty of pride and respect for how I carry myself in my job.
@mb Indian employees are replacable.... by other Indian employees
Answer: Boomers have pride and respect in their job no matter the circumstances, something younger generation lacks.
@mb Albany
@m2 for the record, IBM only looks after it's executives . The US employees are considered TRASH.
And Indian employees are unreplaceable.
@ks it's completely despicable to be "retired" by IBM after nearly 30 years of service and not receive a full bridge to Medicare for you and your family.
I am entitled to the FHA or future health account but with my family of four it will pay for at most nine months of healthcare for just three of us. This is what they gave me in place of lifetime medical coverage that I was promised when I first joined the company.
Honestly, IBM needs to be sued into oblivion.
@ge Same here - I would gladly retire without severance if Healthcare coverage would be bridged to 65.
@g2
I am getting closer to 60 day by day. I can see the target on my back getting larger for a layoff campaign anytime soon.
I will gladly retire from IBM tomorrow, if IBM provides a bridge to 65 for the family healthcare coverage.
I joked to my wife when I turned 60 early last year that this was probably the end of my IBM career. I look at least 10 years younger and act like someone 20 years younger. I didn't really believe it because of all of my awards and other achievements.
But sure enough, I was out by November.
As my team had already lost over 90% the best they could do was to match me with some kid in his late 20s who was able to find another job at IBM in like 20 seconds. I have a vastly better network than he did and a far better reputation, but didn't have a chance in heck to find another position. Lots of sad faces from managers/execs agreeing it was so unfair given who I was and what I have accomplished but not one lifted a finger to help except to give me one.
Age discrimination at IBM is their primary way of doing business.
From the company that brought you "Dino babies".
I am in that group and have personally observed those slightly older than I treated as liabilities despite their decades of loyalty to the company and expertise. Push for them to retire early and those that rejected that experienced RAs. Meanwhile, there is an initiative to drive early career hires.
Actually I've seen where any from 45 and up you have a target on your back
To be specific, IBM targets US employees over 50. Since IBM got legally penalized for blatant age discrimination, it got much more subtle. IBM added bit more younger employees to make it look less obvious. Since US employee population is much smaller now, IBM now uses PIP instead in an industrial scale which also saves on severance cost.
Investors need to be much more aware of this. Innovation can not happen when the employees loath the company this much. Without innovation, there is no growth.
If you are young, IBM is not the place for you.
IBM treats ALL its employees like liabilities.
I recently retired on reaching 65. Close to 40 years in IBM and there are plenty of occasion where I felt vulnerable.
In your 20s you're told you're too young and inexperienced, to wait your turn. Then you hit 40 and you're told you're too old and washed up. So what is a career nowadays, 10 years?
It's over 40 now anywhere in tech.
If they offered early retirement to over 50 you would see a large number leave. If you are RA'ed then they early retire you and retirement benefits open up. If you resign you that resignation goes against you. If you have done your due diligence on saving to absorb an RA then it makes sense to stay ;)
@b0 Just like in Albany, there appears to be a protected, select—and not-so-secret—club. If you’re part of it, your position often seems secure. But if you’re not, it can feel like you have a target on your back. In my experience, employees over the age of 40 who aren’t part of that inner circle often seem especially vulnerable, with experienced professionals viewed as replaceable in favor of fresh, inexperienced new graduates.
Ironically, this creates frustration throughout the Albany semiconductor ecosystem. Partner companies and research collaborators become accustomed to working with seasoned IBM engineers who understand the history, technology, and day-to-day realities of the work. Then, seemingly overnight, they’re expected to start over with a brand-new hire—forcing those external partners to spend their own time teaching and bringing the new IBM employee up to speed.
That isn’t the responsibility of IBM’s customers, suppliers, or research partners. When institutional knowledge is discarded and experience is undervalued, everyone loses—not just employees, but the entire ecosystem that depends on continuity, expertise, and long-term relationships.
I would say 40 and over
I am close to 50 and I feel zero competition from most anyone around me!