This is shocking. Sounds like Cigna really isn't interested in innovation at all.
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@19p So you don't want a career track. Got it.
Are you serious? This would be so bad. 3 out of the 4 principals I work with are smug entitled dou--es, but the principals are the only ones who know what’s going on. Hand this off to HIH and things will go from bad to worse. When will ELT realize HIH is costing them more money than the salaries they cut?
@14e yes fire them all, fire all useless senior advisors and principals, get rid of hih, no h1b/opt, and hire actually good principals onshore.
but you wont do that DP
@16h truly good advisors and principals can make more on their own anyways so its good they leave. But now my analytics org is stuck with bad leaders.
oh well im happy for the good ones
The bonus for principals was 18% and for Senior Advisors 15%. This is smart corporate strategy, right? Upset the smarter people, so they leave. Never ceases to amaze me.
@14e OK DP we see you
Fire these guys. They all sit around collecting Director level pay, meeting with vendors, and not getting anything tangible done while taking credit for everyone else’s work. IT is such a mess and half of it is the cockamamie ideas and plans these principals come up with. I’m sure a few of them do good work, but the rest are just su-k ups who put together great presentations and weigh in on things, but they do t deliver anything. Good riddance.
The PTP program has gotten so watered down with many that are now working at that level. I think it needed a reset.
@r5 She's going on a press tour claiming credit for setting up the AI strategy. It was really the credit of her underpaid indentured offshore team.
@v2 ok DP's cousin or someone in the files.
@r5 cute one liners. Rinse and repeat. Just bring cake or get the fu-k out
@r4 This was pretty much what they used to do in the US post-WW2 and before the 2008 Great Recession. Then suddenly Wall Street didn't want the American middle class thriving too hard and then came mass layoffs, H1bs, and offshoring. This model continues today so who do the onshore IT Principals have to mentor or guide anymore? HIH rich kids?
@pp Of course they will be eliminated. Cant have anyone be a threat to DP Koka and his friends or unqualified Blackrock plants Katya and Fail Upward Evanko
@pp Principals could stand to mentor the next generation of onshore principals but the dum--ss leaders at Cigna are opting for HiH to replace the program for cheap. Very shortsighted since why would offshore engjneers have any investment in US healthcare. India has a good public system.
Its just a parasitic approach at this point to have HIH.
Are they firing the principals or just not promoting any more engineers or developers? While we need their skill level, principals are underutilized and siloed in our org. They meet with vendors and plan and design, but are very detached from what is actually going on with day to day work and end up planning things that do t work out or don’t happen. They shouldn’t be fired, but need to be spread out as mentors and leading work by doing, not sitting in meetings all day talking about projects that are 3 years away and may never happen. However, if Cigna is looking to lay off the highest paid, this group will be in the target. JEing the smartest people in the room will only lead to one…one major issue after another.
Where can I find information about this? I haven't seen anything in the company newsletters or on Iris. This is a bummer.
@av Or - how about none of the positions get eliminated until the company actually has financial pressure to do so? Quit pitting people against each other this company is just as profitable as it’s always been.
Why are US tech and engineers the first to go? been this way for the past 30 some odd years.
Who really should be let go are the actuaries whose jobs can be automated or useless leaders that can actually be automated by AI.
Props to the folks that worked super hard to complete this program and major props for those took multiple rounds to get through it. Nothing your learned was a waste. Nothing you achieved was throwaway. You're better engineers for it. Don't let this company make you feel otherwise.
Are they eliminating the roles (probably, as many have been laid off) or just eliminating the group programs that made the folks in these roles more useful cross functionally?
Why do they shoot themselves in the foot like this?
You can bet HIH won't innovate anything.
Never heard of it.
Must not have been Lead to One compliant.