I am over 50 and considering applying at Humana but like many companies that seem to have become ageist and removing older folks first, I am concerned about applying here.
To those of you that either still work there or those who used to work there think they may have been discriminated against because of their age, I repeat tje same question as in the post title.
Is Humana an ageist company?
Thanks in advance.
@11d totally agree - all under 40. DE&I only looks at race not age.
@1jv did you receive a OWPBPA form? That should tell you ages of all people impacted and ages of those not impacted
I was riffed from humana at 53 several years ago. everyone in my group was 45+ that was let go.. so I'd have to assume yes. but I could never prove it
Short answer is, YES, they are. They have clearly stated goals to hire younger people. They have recently offered "Early retirement" twice in the past few years. The clear goal is to hire more younger, early career workers. The reason is simple - they are easier to manipulate, they settle for cheaper benefits and use less health insurance, they will work for lower salaries (vs. long time employees), and the perception is that they are more 'tuned in' to the use of AI and other newer tech.
When you accept 'early retirement', you are forced to sign something saying you will NOT sue for age discrimination. I believe that alone says all that needs to be said. Who in their right mind is going to give up benefits and pay for however long just to retain the ability to MAYBE sue them (probably get out-lawyered) and lose?
@cj totally agree and people that are just “yes” people with no backbone or actual work experience to know what’s right.
I don't think you would experience as much age discrimination coming in at 50+ as you would as someone who has been there for years and has accumulated higher and higher salary.
Basically Humana has no loyalty to long term associates. They do not value experience or business knowledge. They value cheap labor, once you aren't cheap, you aren't valued.
It’s a lightly moderated site that isn’t tied to the company, so if posts are disappearing my guess is someone got banned for ToS violations and their stuff is getting auto-removed.
Here’s a quick rundown of the kinds of posts mods usually nuke (not my list, grabbed from another thread):
Is it just me, or are some threads disappearing really quickly?
@gt If when they open that Humana location in India that you mentioned, if we are willing to relocate will we get paid in rubles?
I assume with exchange rate, we will still get paid same amount as today, even if we relocate to India, right?
@gt So, based on what you said (posted), should we now consider Humana to basically be an Indian company and no longer an American company?
@bg There were still lay offs. It was just in quiet pockets.
@az Same here. I moved to a new position at 55 and love the role. Was told working on move to lead then we were moved under an area that does not promote, have to have an open role. Now, at almost 59, moving to a lead role in another area. So, been lucky so far but I have seen the move to retire the seasoned associates who have a lot of knowledge.
As a leader myself, I’m fully aware of the intentional shift towards a “newer” perspective and certain demographics were a focus in recent years for “early retirement” and RIFs. The problem for anyone currently still in or newly entering is the headlong rush towards AI with no clear guidance. Even if you get a job, you aren’t assured longevity. The company is making big promises to shareholders to lean out through AI, automation and vended services. Also heard leadership is considering an actual brick and mortar in India to circumvent the new administration’s H1B policy. It’s all business, but potential candidates should beware.
All companies are.
@OP no they are money greedy and most people there over 50 are making the money so they hire younger ones who don’t require to make as much money.
Yes they practice age discrimination. In my opinion. We have leaders with pi-ples that are promoted over seasoned staff all the while the seasoned staff are the backbone of the place.
I joined in my mid 50s and it has been good. Dept. Was asking employees to leave voluntarily and enough did so no layoffs, unlike other companies I've worked for.
I have mixed feelings. I was hired by Humana into a Lead position when I was 54 yo, at a time when I was very concerned about finding a new position given my age. I perceived at the time that my perspective as an older adult was highly appreciated given the member base. Over the next number of years I was promoted into Director and AVP positions. I built some great teams and delivered a lot of value. But then I was suddenly RIF'd after 8 years by my skip. My direct leader told me they wanted a fresh perspective. So, yeah, mixed feelings. (I did get a good severance package but not as good as the early retirement plan which was offered a few months later.)
@OP - Oh YES, they sure are!
Ageist? To say the least. Productivity, dependability and loyalty mean nothing once you hit 45.
From my experience things drastically changed for me personally once I turned 55. They offered early retirement twice in a less than two year period, so that should be all you need to know.
Definitely do not work at Humana