Thread regarding Bank of America layoffs

Workday leaves doesn't count but it doesn't mark that week as bad. It puts * next to the number so that week can be excluded. Not sure how the system works if we take off 1 day a week for 6 weeks and so show up only 2 days a week. Broken system and sh---y rules

@ph band 3 cannot enter vacation into workday

@pg I’ve been here over 20 years and never entered time off into workday. I don’t plan on starting. It’s not required.

That is not how it works. Sick/vacation/holiday time that is properly entered into Workday is taken into consideration.

@ej Yes there is. You are supposed to be entering your sick, vacation and holidays into Workday. The WFH Compliance tool takes into account, days that you are sick, vacation, holiday for compliance to the 3x a week in office requirement. Take off 4 days of the week and you are still required to be in office, one day. take off 2 days and you are expected to be in office 3x.

Whether you're now in a 4/1 situation or staying in a 3/2 posture, the idea that days off (of any kind) essentially count - unconditionally - as a WFH day is ludicrous. The proper way to manage this is to just then also mandate which 3 or 4 days of the week each employee is required to be in the office with the remaining days of the week designated as WFH days...and that's it. You want consistency in the weekly schedule due to things like setting up child or elder care so employees can make their arrangements and not have to scramble to frequently change them because you have to go to the office to make up for a day that you needed to take off earlier in the week. The powers that be in this place are so intellectually and morally bankrupt.

@j7
Your perspective does not even make sense. Regardless of how many days you have off, you were supposed to enter them into workday (and that is also regardless of your band).
If you have two vacation days, then you are expected to work in office the other three days and that will keep you in compliance. If you make up your own rules, you will absolutely be out of compliance and they have stepped it up to ensure there’s no more coffee badging and will be minor monitoring VPN in addition to badges.. in addition to the new in Office days, you will also be expected to work a full day in office versus coming in and leaving early. Credible source advised that this will be monitored very closely and they are going to put a stop to everyone leaving early.

People like you will ruin it for everyone and they’ll just make everyone come in five days a week for eight hours a day.

@av
Just because certain bands don’t have a specified number of vacation days does not mean they are not expected to enter their time off into workday. I think a lot of people are confused about this and I don’t understand why the company doesn’t clarify it, especially when it results in rollover days and people getting paid out for days that they are not owed when they leave the bank.

All bands are expected to enter their time off into workday. This is also how they verify that you are not out of compliance with your in office time when you’re out for vacation or personal time.

When the game of WFH was counted and reported, my group treats holidays, vacation, sick, and personal days as WFH in regards to allowance. In my group, we have two days allowance for WFH as part of the 3/2 hybrid work week. Only exceptions were for major holidays where we can WFH all week or when an emergency day is declared by SOACC such as inclement weather (i.e. blizzard). SOACC days did not count. Well, the exception weeks were taken away from us.

As of today, my group is required to be in the office at least three days a week. How the other two days are classified as, it doesn't matter. When the policy is changed to four days in the office, then it will be one day classified for whatever.

I can tell you when employees misuse or are confused, senior management will just make it easy for them by requiring full time at five days a week in the office. It is not like there is a Supreme Court in BofA to clarify the criteria for WFH. Just Mother Nature!!!

You don’t have WFH days.

You have “in office days”. You have to be in the office 3 or 4 days every week. A holiday is not “in office”. A PTO day is not “in office”.

The whole concept of “vacation” days equating to “work” from home days is absurd and can expose the bank legally. You can’t link “vacation” to “work”.

How I see it - if I am now 4 days in office and don’t want to, I’ll take 2 vacation days and work the other 3 from home. I will not come in for those 3 days since it won’t be in compliance anyway. Not going to waste the time, expense, frustration just to be ”out of compliance”. It actually works better for me to switch from 3 to 4 days with that model, more bang for the buck on vacation days spent.

@e6 My LOB considers days off as WFH days.

@e6 there is no option for “vacation“ in workday.

These statements do not seem accurate. Your days off nor bank holidays are considered wfh days. I would keep my workday updated. HR would likely have a issue counting your PTO time as part of compliance reporting.

@b4 this week it will be

we still have to take 2 weeks back to back in Markets for Compliance reasons.

that is one thing that has never changed,

(although we still get ping'ed while out. tsk tsk. wink wink)

Did something get officially announced?

Just enter time into workday, the tool probably processes days off into the compliance calculation. Not sure how they would handle B3 since they don't get vacation time. Honestly wouldn't worry about it. Just be off when off and keep documentation.

Go back to the 80s and you had to take at least one or two weeks all at once.