Thread regarding Elevance Health (Anthem) layoffs

Why are you concerned whether it is "permitted" or not? If you need, want to move, then move. They don't own you! Stop adjusting your life around some big a corporation who doesn't give a sh about you (your family, your mental or physical health) If they don't like it, then can they really fire you without having a fight on their hands? When you were hired for your role, it was WAH, didn't matter where you lived. They won't fire you, they may RIF you but take that money and run to better pastures honey!

Do yourself a favor and just look for another job that's already remote. This company will eventually sc--w you one way or another. The future is NOT with any healthcare company.

@OP none of us are "fully" anything - subject to change for the infamous "business need"

@w5 If you read the details of the listing it usually says candidates at other Pp may be considered.

Anybody who chooses to rock the boat with this company will be short-lived at this company. Job security is a thing in the past and you must live your life to your needs not based on a job that will probably be gone soon. Just my two cents.

Some job postings do not list the pulse point in my state at all, would I still be considered?

@c9 this has been my experience. I am more than 2 hours away from a pulse point. Many job postings indicate that you can't even apply if you do not live in a 5o mile radius.

@tb "Absolutely you can. It at your leadership’ discretion." If it is up to your manager whether or not you can move, then no, it is not a guarantee that you can move.... Not without the risk of your job being threatened.

@tp This sh-t happened to me too. I was forced to be remote, then whomever classified the zone did it wrong and put me higher. The fixed it but I’m punished every year at merit time and given a pittance “ because I make too much money.” Like where were your checks and balances to prevent this from happening in the first place. It just kind of proved that done leadership can force things through when it suits them.

I was fully remote over 2 hours from a pulse point, when I moved I had to get my location approved (first) but was also told that my pay would be adjusted if the zone was a downgrade zone from what my salary currently was

Absolutely you can. It at your leadership’ discretion. I have seen approval for moves across country and still not near a pulse point. I have also seen lateral job titles changes and promotions for associates not living near a pulse point.

@q0 Didn't I just read a previous post that the rules change - 50 miles to 55 miles is a good example. This place changes the rules all the time, to suit their own whim. I agree I don't see getting a move once again away from a Pulse Point approved. No one is permanently remote, heck no one is permanently employed. I bet if you asked HR they would say they have to discuss with your manager. Don't plan on that person caring about you. Seems they care only about themselves.

@jf When did it become 55 miles now? I was told it was 50 miles or commute shouldn't be over an hour. Did they discover too many people that lived 51 to 55 miles from a PulsePoint?

@jf thanks. Understood about not being able to change positions. I do not wish to get into management and am content in current role. I am about 5 years to retirement and no plans to broaden my horizons at this stage of the game

@OP yes it's permitted. Nothing would change on your status. Keep in mind, not living within the 55 mile limit means you are not eligible to move to another role.

@OP no one is hired fully remote anymore - if you live more than 2 hrs from a PP now you are good to go - if you can move why can't you move to a location other than AWAY from a PP. If you think the current leadership is going to let you do that you are nuts. People don't realize nothing is the same as "when you got hired" ask all the people who were hired salary M-F then switched to hourly with Saturdays then back to salary when they got tired of paying them all tons of differentials. Oh and their was also changed - hired for 8-5 moved to 12-8. No promises at this place - ask around

@cx Well, you know how it is around here. If they can't find an underling to assign their work to, the task is not likely to be done.

You have to get approval but since your hybrid category is already virtual I think they might approve it. Worth asking your leader. It’s harder to get them to change categories.

@cx Wow! So now working at Elevance means they can dictate where you live because manager is too lazy to follow a process? What a jacked up company.

I requested to move from one PulsePoint location to another to be closer to family and was told no because it would require my immediate manager to go through the hassle of getting VP approval. And that was with me agreeing to report into the PulsePoint at the new location.

@OP Logically, there’s no meaningful difference between working remotely from one state today and relocating to another state where your new home is outside a pulse point (more than an hour away). The nature of the work and responsibilities remain exactly the same.

For example, one of my coworkers in California went through a similar situation, they simply moved from one suburban area in Northern California to another in Southern California. In that case, the manager only needed to provide a brief justification to HR.

Given that the role, performance expectations, and work arrangement don’t change, it’s unclear why this would require special concern or extensive justification in the first place.

Is every unrestricted pulse point allowed to work from? I am under the impression that's a no?

@bq you are right. They have made that clear, if you don’t live near a pulse point, upward mobility or even lateral won’t happen.

doubtful under current state

@bq absolutely. I don’t know how they can do it, but I suppose they are in someone’s pocket to make it legal. I don’t have immediate plans but sometimes think a change of scenery would be nice.
Trying to weight my options without getting on HR radar in case I pull a fast one and just use my brothers address.

I don’t know the answer but to me if you are already officially remote it shouldn’t matter. Asking HR is the only way to know for sure but it is ridiculous that a company can decide if you can move or not. I would say if you wanted to be able to move freely from job to job you need to be in range of a pulse point but if you are happy doing the same job for the rest of your career then I don’t see why it matter. But of course don’t just move without getting the “blessing” of the company so you don’t lose your job.