Thread regarding Optum layoffs

RSUs not part of severance

I’m a GL31, that was laid off. My last day is late November. I have been with Optum for six years, and have been in various roles (including two integrations). During that time I’ve accumulated a decent amount of stock options (all currently worthless at the $400-500 strike price), and stock RSU grants. My next RSU vesting is Feb 21, and would have amounted to about $30K (at today’s share price). I also obviously am not getting a bonus for 2025.

My severance letter is offering to give me 12 weeks of pay, plus a week of unused vacation. No RSUs, etc.

My question is - before I sign my severance agreement, should I have a lawyer attempt to negotiate the inclusion of my RSUs as part of my package? Has anyone done or heard of this being a successful strategy?

I have 45 days after my last day to sign the letter. I feel I’ve put it the vesting time of six years waiting for these stock awards to vest, and that I should receive these RSUs that are just a couple months shy of vesting. Do I have any case?

Thanks for any advice you may have.


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Read your plan document. If you are getting severance, for the duration of the severance period you will continue to get RSU's that vest during that period. So if you get laid off in December, with 12 weeks severance, and you had grants vesting in Feb, you will get those. Don't remember if it's the same with option, but to your point, probably doesn't matter with the stock price where it is

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Post ID: @1g6+1k9w3emqb

Any stock that vests after your last day is lost. You don't get it and there is nothing you can negotiate. Either take the severance or don't. They used stock awards to make you think they were giving you something aside from a raise/bonus and they have no issue not letting you have it. Sorry you were bamboozled like the rest of the people they don't care about. Think of all of the people who were laid off that didnt have any vested stock, weren't getting good raises (you probably gave them 1-2%), and got shiite bonuses. Consider yourself lucky that you are in a better position than all of us regular folk who did all the work and are getting thrown out with hardly anything.

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Post ID: @1g1+1k9w3emqb

Call Netbenefits to see your options and get the truth from them.

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Post ID: @19v+1k9w3emqb

A lawyer will be a waste of time. Your severance offer is it and our employee at will status eliminates any ability to fight it.

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Post ID: @160+1k9w3emqb

Good luck getting an attorney to even look at the separation agreement. I was laid off earlier this year and called several offices - short story not worth their time....... . :-(

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Post ID: @m9+1k9w3emqb

@bn you mean ask copilot

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Post ID: @hh+1k9w3emqb

@OP pull your grant docs from Netbenefits.com. Those are the terms you agree to when you accept stock unit or non-qual stock options grants. There are specific details about what happens to the unvested portion of RSUs during voluntary or involuntary termination of employment, when accelerated vesting is allowed, and any restrictive covenants in force, like NDAs, non-competes, and non-solicitation. I think anyone 32 and below only has the non-solicitation clause. Anyway, those docs will tell you if they sc--wed you. Best of luck.

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Post ID: @fr+1k9w3emqb

I would not engage a lawyer here but rather write it off. 30k after taxes is going to be closer to 20, a super law firm from Optum will have written an ironclad piece of contract language when you started and when you got RSUs, and any lawyer you hire at an amount that would make sense to recover this money isn’t going to find some g add p in that . It’s lame that they cut you off before vest but it’s not worth more investment.

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Post ID: @fb+1k9w3emqb

A 31 asking us. What a je-k

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Post ID: @dj+1k9w3emqb

Unless they were vested they are gone. Not yours. Notice how many C suites stay on the books until after the February vesting. Termed…RIF…quit…and you are off the books.

Any vested is yours

My current Goal— to stay past last vesting date in February. 😉

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Post ID: @c5+1k9w3emqb

Does it explicitly say you are not getting the RSUs? I was impacted in May and it took several weeks for UHG to communicate with Fidelity on what would happen with my options (3 months to exercise). I’m wondering if this is just a gap in communication??

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Post ID: @bt+1k9w3emqb

You are better off asking ChatGPT than this site.

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Post ID: @bn+1k9w3emqb

Worth looking into. Not to scare you and more to prepare you: once your attorney reaches out to UHG they will likely remove any remaining access you have to our network or buildings, and keep you on garden leave until that last day.

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Post ID: @an+1k9w3emqb

I’m in a very similar situation. Waited years for a sizable RSU vesting only to have it all snatched away due to a a layoff happening a month prior to my vesting date. I’m speaking to an attorney today. There is actually a lot of precedent out there for this situation and you do NOT have to just sign the letter. Everything can be negotiated.

If there are many others out there in similar situations we could consider forming a class action lawsuit.

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Post ID: @ae+1k9w3emqb

nothing is your until vested.When you are granted stock options, you may not own them immediately. Vesting schedules determine that

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Post ID: @ab+1k9w3emqb

Consult a couple of attorneys, see what they say and take it from there. Worth a shot! This way you will have a piece of mind and have some answers! Best!

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Post ID: @aa+1k9w3emqb

Forget about the RSU - they may be giving you severance now, but they could also take that back and not offer you anything if you demand the RSU.

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Post ID: @a2+1k9w3emqb

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