Has anyone ever come out of a pip successfully?
What’s the longest anyone has ever been on a CP before they were put on PIP?
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As a former Sr. Investigator II in AML, I successfully coached an investigator off a PIP. They grew to one of the strongest investigators the department had. After 4 years with the company and a new manager, I quickly went from CP to PIP for ridiculous, absurd, and untrue reasons. Both of my managers were lying b*tches. The only way to successfully survive a PIP is if your manager has your back. If they don't, go find someplace else to work. It isn't worth your sanity to try and survive it. Great company. Toxic culture.
@6wm I had a similar thing happen to me. I beat a political BS PIP only because I got a new manager. But I was damaged goods at that point.
I was put on a coaching plan, moved to a new manager, and they took me off of the plan because they couldn’t find anything to coach me on. A year later my team was RIF’d and on the way out the door, they gave me another cr-ppy review (or tried to because I told them to go f themselves and ended the meeting). C1 is an abomination.
I witnessed 1 individual come out of a PIP, only because their manager was fired and the replacement manager saw value in them.
Coaching plans are far more common and now (as of 2025), a midyear/year end review of "inconsistent" is used to push you out.
In my case, I had countless positive feedback notes from peers, strong project results and completed work but a miserable manager.
3x H.R. "investigations" resulting from me filing complaints, 2x other team members filing complaints, all led to nothing. In the words of the Dept Director, if he had to discipline them, it would mean they made a hiring mistake and he'll never admit to a mistake.
Why? C1 blows! Your sanity is worth more than completing a pip.
Yes, it can be done if you work hard on it. I've seen folks do well with the PIP when they have supportive leaders that are invested in their success. However, if they are trying to get rid of you, they will - for I've seen that as well. But no matter what, always ask for a package - even if they try to terminate you without a PIP, ask for a severance. But like many others, I agree with taking what they offer if you're not struggling. Take the 2 months and severance and never look back. Pursue YOUR dreams!
It can be done but my manager ran me through the wringer. She loaded me up with work and I was working long hours to keep up the pace. I was able to get through but it was brutal. They’re looking to make financial cuts. It has nothing to do with your performance.
Just finished a PIP successfully here, it was complete nonsense and obvious they were looking for folks to cut, but it ca be done.
Don't even try to complete your PIP. It is waste of time and your effort. Take 2 months of paid time off and then you will get a package also. Use that time to find new job in a different company!
I was put on a CP because my manager was incompetent and saw me as a threat. The reason was not pulling my weight. That manager is now gone and I’ve since been promoted. It’s all political.
The PIP is the shot across the bow. Its the company saying they no longer want you and they are giving you time to find something else. At the non exempt level you can "successfully" complete a PIP but something will eventually found to move you out. At the exempt level.. take the PIP money and run. At the exempt level if you are on a PIP and complete it if you do anything that they can use to separate you they will use the verbiage in the old PIP to move you out. It would be easier for all parties if they just fired when they should but they drag it out.
I came off a PIP successfully about 10 years ago, but was then nailed again and PIP-ed out a year later. Once the managers see your name in the bottom 15 it is next to impossible to get out of that bucket unless you have a manager who will fight like a pit-bull for you with documentation and examples.
I haven't seen anyone come off a PIP, but have seen plenty complete Coaching Plans, and even go on to get promoted a year or two later (though that is not the norm).