Does anyone definitively know how Wells Fargo is tracking your "working hours"? I hear that the next big layoff is going to target people who are working only 10 to 20 hours a week. I work more than that (I hope) but it got me thinking about how they are tracking it. I have a permanent work from home exception so they cant track me through ID swipes. It just makes me nervous that they might be using a method that excludes me working remotely.
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@a4 Yep. And HB1 is in.
@e2 You have a locker? I'm lucky if I can find a place to sit.
@kv we are supposed to do 50% or more a week and your designated area. It is an average of 13 weeks.
If you are remote with an exception, be prepared to be cut. Of course they say they don't target people with valid medical reasons, but they 100% do.
Even if you are the top performer on the team, eventually you will get the axe.
They have some software that is monitoring mouse clicks - I know because the lead on my team was pulled in to a situation where someone was using a mouse-mover and was recording a ridiculous amount of mouse clicks. So the capability is there and they are using it. Some teams, at least, are.
WF used to be a great place to work, now it is just a soul-su-king shitehole. The only good thing about it is they pay insanely well.
Good luck, OP
Are they tracking what websites we go on? Lol couldn’t someone just fake work by watching YouTube?
There's nothing efficient about spending hours in your car or wandering around corporate campuses. 8 hours would be the shortest day I've worked in over a decade. I didn't drop it to that until they turned this place into an overgrown kindergarten. Now that they are demanding 8, that's all they get. FHY.
Can someone answer this for me? Asking for a friend. Let’s say you are in a remote market but you have a position that requires 3 days of fieldwork per week. But every other week you travel to a core market that’s in another state and work from an office. Does this pass muster as far as Location Strategy goes?
@hx a few directors and senior in my org managers share their calendars. They spend their days in meetings about meetings. Then more meetings about nothing but talking in circles for the next recurring meeting where they give the same status update they did previously. Then when they step in to try to help, they dont know enough of the details to be helpful and you have to have a meeting to get them up to speed.
@fz If a company has to watch its employees like newborns with a baby monitor, maybe the real question isn’t about worker productivity — it’s about who’s doing the hiring. What kind of judgment do these managers and HR folks have if they don’t trust the very people they hired?
And let’s be honest. Before anyone starts firing engineers based on some surveillance dashboard, maybe publish activity stats for the four layers of management above them. I’d bet the folks doing the real work contribute more in a week than those layers combined.
Are we working for some government job in North Korea?
This isn’t about productivity. It’s control for control’s sake. It looks like a group of certain people trying to retaliate against those who are raising voices against systemic gaming of hiring system in Wells Fargo and in US in general. Fear mongering!
@ej because at the point of hire the expectation is not “produce X widgets” it is “work 8 hours and here are the tasks expected to be worked during that period”.
Everyone employed will do good to remember that full time and part time employments are time-based designations. Why would a company provide you full time employee benefits and pay scale if you are essentially only working part-time? All we have to do is stay active throught a normal business day.
They are hiring skilled staff that are expected to find work. Like the mantra in fast food, if you have time to lean you have time to clean. There is always something that can be done, a little documentation, validations, cleanups. And it doesn’t all have to be for the company, you could be learning something new or honing an existing skill.
That’s what this is. Efficiencies. Nobody says you have to break your back or work longer than your agreed upon schedule. Just if the expectation is to be remunerated for 8 hrs worth of work then he employer wants 8hrs of output.
You could say the same thing about the people working 40-60 hours. They want us all gone. Unless your skill is "working in India", they don't care about your hours.
@eh it’s not a secret at all. In fact the current reporting and instructions are on TW. Stop making things up to feel important - on an anonymous message board also
We were told it was badging in/out and the IP address they see your machine from. That's the main way to get in office time. As for performance apps - yes they are present too. It quite secretive, but I've seen updates to my machine that I then looked up online and discovered what the SW was for.
And for those of you who are on virtual desktops? Oooops....yep they can sit and watch your screen at any time. Without you knowing. Its not a remote assist, its not a remote desktop connect where you get a pop-up. This is totally different. That's what I've seen and heard.
Can they give us our fu--ing desks back? I would love to grab a tissue to blow my nose instead of running to my “locker” to grab one.
@OP There are 2 different sets of data being distributed right now. In office hours (which will be added to the manager dashboard soon) and digital activity. The digital activity is being tracked by 3 subsets of data to capture an effective workday. It’s then being broken down by digital hours ‘worked’ groupings; less than 2 hours, 2-3 hours, 3-4 hours, etc. It’s tracking things like time in specific applications, meetings, emails sent/received, etc.
@ac I'm in I could use 2x a week 1 hour meetings which count towards productivity.
I was told it's 5 hours of Twitter a combination in office of meetings and mouse activity so scatter your meetings over the data and schedule time with anyone to catch up since that counts go in take active training and that gets you 5 hours of active then the 3 hours of passive wander the floor sit in the kitchen it doesn't matter or listen to music they want 8 hours they get them. I'm being told do 8 plus 15-30 minutes. So less work for them but this isn't. About work
Are the managers and execs gettin’ tracked for the hours they work? Cause as far as I can tell, few of ‘em here at WF are just wingin it. Few of the very folks hollerin about ‘back to the office’ are sitting remote themselves. Bless their hearts, the irony’s thicker than a bowl of grits.
If you are only working 10-20 hours a week, you soon won’t be here, but it won’t be via layoff.
Now I know why the Indians cc 20 distro lists, they likely know it makes you look productive.
I was told my working hrs are less. I work mostly 8.5 hrs everyday so I asked how working hrs r calculated and mgr said I don’t know. Something not right.
@af Why don’t you take the weekend off from posting on here .
There's two known ways that Wells Fargo is tracking people's work hours. The first is the badge system into the building where you work and the second is the software installed on your workstation both of these items together form a picture of your activity whether you are at the office or remote.
It is this method that they are using get rid of people if people are not showing as active for their required 8 hours a day 5 days a week then they're going to be quickly put on the short list and this week it is expected that managers will be talking to their subordinates about being on the list for not reporting to the office for required time and if it persists they may quickly end up on a performance plan
People on this form, don’t definitively know anything. Although there are a few people who claim they know things.. the manager guidance for reporting is the same as it’s always been. But the expectation is now eight hours.. I would assume they’re still working on the reporting otherwise it would’ve been distributed and linked on teamworks. Used deductive reasoning instead of listening to ignorant people on this forum
This form is useless as ti-s on a bull
If you're WFH full time, you're already on the list
Are they tracking what websites we are visiting?
I was told Celonis is used for tracking activity across different applications, but not sure if that's the same reporting
I was told tracking in Aternity system. That tool doesnt show enough hours for me even though I work a lot of 10 hour days and more in a tight deadline. I’m on long conference calls and sometimes hand write notes when they speak fast. A lot of time is in planning or discussing issues. So they see that as not working? Ok I will open a word doc and type gibberish all day! This is ridiculous.
I heard today from a manager that the new reporting tracks emails sent per day as well as mouse activity. Not sure exactly how it’s being enforced but those are the metrics I was told.
You are in trouble. Look for another job. DEI is gone