Thread regarding L3Harris Technologies layoffs

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@28a

people underestimate how easy it is to say "I don't know"

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Post ID: @2bm+1k2zgjhy2

Can’t wait until we have to train our InfoSys or HCLTech replacements. They sure like to rub salt into our wounds.

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Post ID: @28a+1k2zgjhy2

One thing to remember, you are and do what you do, you just happened to have done it for an employer that didn't appreciate. You now have 3 months to meet their expectations and perform to the low level they view us in. Happy labor day, the sun still rises.

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Post ID: @27v+1k2zgjhy2

@1nc

I am in a similar situation. These last 10+ years were going to be the same level of output, but we finally had time to catch up on savings, what a kick in the nuts. This isn't business, sorry, it is inhumane because the outcome is predictable. WTF am I going to do, seriously? This isn't 17 years old, put on a nice shirt and go drop applications off type of stuff. If anyone thinks people in control wouldn't do things to intentionally hurt people, then explain this bs. I guarantee you that net-net it doesn't save any money.

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Post ID: @1nr+1k2zgjhy2

what percentage of laid-off professionals over 50 secure a new job?

Ages 55–64 (long-tenured): reemployment ~55% → ~45% remain unemployed or exit the labor force.

L3 completely sc--wed a lot of people. 20 years of doing everything I was asked, 4.5*+ every single one of them, a helluva reality to reconcile

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Post ID: @1nc+1k2zgjhy2

I’d go back to L3. Network engineer

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Post ID: @1dm+1k2zgjhy2

@1ch I’m not saying that it can’t happen what I’m saying is that it’s in the contract that everybody signed that you’re not supposed to

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Post ID: @1dg+1k2zgjhy2

@1ag People can and have gotten jobs from Accenture to L3Harris. Some have moved back to L3H to support closed areas.

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Post ID: @1dd+1k2zgjhy2

@1ch

That is some shady stuff there, pretty much comes with the territory with these lizard people.

The entire Accenture deal and the subsequent outcome is ethically questionable.

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Post ID: @1cr+1k2zgjhy2

@1ca I know of 3 people that have returned. In all cases L3H reached out to them first and encouraged them to apply for a particular posted position. Looks like they are cherry picking their favorites.

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Post ID: @1ch+1k2zgjhy2

@1ca

After the way L3H offloaded us to Accenture and then abruptly canceled the contract, I truly don’t see why anyone would want to return. There's nothing to suggest they wouldn't do the same thing again - or worse.

Executive leadership and IT management can go to h3ll...

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Post ID: @1cd+1k2zgjhy2

@1ag

Not sure if that is true - someone recently came back

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Post ID: @1ca+1k2zgjhy2

@qk they can’t. The contract we signed with Accenture says for 12 months after leaving Accenture we can’t be employed at any client Accenture worked with in the last 18 months.

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Post ID: @1ag+1k2zgjhy2

@186 I'm interested

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Post ID: @192+1k2zgjhy2

@qk

Salary range 80k-100k, if anyone experienced is willing to work on enterprise level SAP IT systems for 80k, I would love to meet them and review their output.

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Post ID: @186+1k2zgjhy2

Strike Date set for 10/13 my hire date
See you not there..

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Post ID: @167+1k2zgjhy2

Ahh yes, the Trusted Disrupter pulling the rug out from under its feet since it didn't learn from the last IT contract switcheroo.

Kube is an accountant. If it's not multiplication or addition or diddling his subordinates he's not good with it. Actually, I don't think he's good with the later either. Let's just all get disrupted and sold to Texas Pacific already.

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Post ID: @vy+1k2zgjhy2

@K5 – Accenture is doing what is best for Accenture just like L3Harris thinks they are doing what is best for L3Harris. Neither are doing what is best for you. Is what L3Harris did ethical? I don’t think so, but they can do it and did.

My experience through this whole debacle is proof to me that neither company really has a clue when it comes to I.T. If you had a positive experience, good for you! My experience is closer to @JN. Accenture as been a close minded, fear of any dissension organization that does not want to get better, they just want to get impress L3Harris, at any cost. They believe the customer is always right, and any I.T. person with a few years under the belt knows that is not always true. In fact, I would argue that our job as I.T. professionals it to help the organization steer clear of bad technology decisions by pointing out any technical issues. Accenture seems to disagree. The leadership does favor Indian employees and seems to give them more opportunities. Conscious or not, I have seen it.

@QK – I happen to agree. I believe L3Harris lost the employees when they shipped us to Accenture. I also don’t believe the CIO understands the level of tribal knowledge the people have. She is most likely hoping that Accenture got it all documented. I can assure you they did not.

For InfoSys or HCLTech to try and hire us would be pooching and is frowned upon in the industry, unless Accenture agreed. I looked and it does seem that InfoSys has job postings for the L3Harris contract in Melbourne. You need to look at all of them since they don’t all have the location visible, but here is one for an Oracle Admin: https://digitalcareers.infosys.com/global-careers/company-job/description/reqid/138005BR

The “Bench” is not a good place for newbie contractors like most of the people sold at the slave auction to Accenture. We will not be the only ones on the bench, I suspect with 400+ ex L3H Monarch employees, there will be hundreds, if not thousands, more people and most will be much cheaper to hire. You are competing with H1B visas. Accenture is about profit. Do the math! Most people that I am aware of that have found positions while on the bench become technical leaders, interfacing the American customer with the Indian staff. If that is your career goal, I wish you the best.

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Post ID: @tm+1k2zgjhy2

@qk

12-15 everyone is rolling off and going to the bench, up to you to find your new role within Accenture, I will be surprised if 10% of us find projects.

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Post ID: @ta+1k2zgjhy2

@qk they don’t want any of us. Infosys is looking to hire people at 30 to 40 percent less than what some of us make. Their plan is clearly to replace those with experience with low cost resources. Why anyone would want to work in IT in this organization is beyond me. Good luck everyone I hope we can all move on to something new.

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Post ID: @r6+1k2zgjhy2

@qb holy cr-p, you’re right! I looked up a job listing at Infosys IPS at Melbourne, Salt Lake City, and Greenville. That’s definitely for L3H. I thought they would offer jobs to us from ACN to move over to the new contractors. Ugh. I should not hold out hope to stay with L3H. We should all be fed up, and burn the bridge that Kim already torched for us.

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Post ID: @qk+1k2zgjhy2

@hx Found my job on Infosys, they are insisting that applicants have to reside in one of the major L3 cities and work on-site. Also, they think they're going to combine it with another position, that doesn't have anything to do with group I work in. What the f&$k?

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Post ID: @qb+1k2zgjhy2

@nc f**k the L3H and Accenture leadership. Similar to Accenture HQ in Ireland, Infosys has HQ in India. US was developed by Britishers with money looted from India in 17th century.

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Post ID: @pg+1k2zgjhy2

@pd

Nailed it.

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Post ID: @pf+1k2zgjhy2

@pd Sounds like Accenture and L3Harris Corporate have matching levels of competency, I can't imagine why things didn't work out.

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Post ID: @pe+1k2zgjhy2

@k5 Accenture was wildly unprepared for the contract. They were surprised to learn that we were getting on-call pay, and just completely ignored it during the onboarding.
They didn’t start looking at metrics until a couple of weeks before the SLA go live and even then, the Accenture leadership couldn’t answer basic questions or demonstrate an understanding of how SLAs were being measured.
They failed to meet obligations. Had a bunch of inexperienced “leaders” running service now trying to tell us how to provide service. They did not listen to the people who were doing the job for years. Instead, they only cared about putting BS notes in service now. Almost every meeting devolved into complete chaos. Accenture HR Ignored countless requests and complaints about on-call pay, they ignored various state employment laws.

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Post ID: @pd+1k2zgjhy2

morning fam, Chris K su-ks himself, have a great day

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Post ID: @p3+1k2zgjhy2

@j7

I have been on strike for a year, it is amazing how little I do and now it is going to be even less. I could do all the work I did in the last year in a couple of weeks tops.

The reality is you have a ship being commandeered by people that do not know what they are doing and all they are doing is managing outcomes in the form of a stock price. It has been 7 years since I was managed by someone I respected.

I will be happy just to find another job and ride out the last 10 years somewhere making 50% less, the prospects are weak at best, really pathetic.

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Post ID: @p2+1k2zgjhy2

@hq People has to stop going off about these companies being "Indian" they are both international as is Accenture (Dublin Ireland). Obviously the people to support a gov contractor must legally be allowed to work here.
Focus on the poor leadership decisions and not on meaningless ignorant cr-p

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Post ID: @nv+1k2zgjhy2

Fu-k India

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Post ID: @nc+1k2zgjhy2

Accenture is doing the right thing in my opinion. They are taking a stand for contract integrity and trying to protect employees that may be impacted by this breach.

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Post ID: @k5+1k2zgjhy2

@hn not for me. Outstanding employee for 20 years. Not one write up. The last 8 months I’ve been attacked and put on a PIP for being “rude” for simply asking questions and wanting info on how to work a ticket.

Now my reputation is falsely tarnished at Accenture and my fate is sealed by useless leadership.

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Post ID: @jn+1k2zgjhy2

@hp So Kim and her wonderful leadership team failed miserably managing one consulting company, but now they are going to manage 2 of them? You can’t make up how poorly ran this IT department is.

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Post ID: @ja+1k2zgjhy2

@j0 I would definitely sign up. Also would be nice to organize a general strike for at least a day.

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Post ID: @j7+1k2zgjhy2

Does anybody else wonder if we, the x-L3 employees now Accenture employees, might have grounds for a lawsuit against L3?

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Post ID: @j0+1k2zgjhy2

@hq Infosys is already doing business for L3H, supporting Aerojet Rocketdyne. They’re already here with US employees.

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Post ID: @hx+1k2zgjhy2

@hq

the best of the best /s

To all of the remaining L3 IT management, of which there is plenty, a kind F U, karma, g'day

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Post ID: @hs+1k2zgjhy2

Infosys and HCL, both companies are Indian. Wonder if they are going to drop the requirement for US citizenship for access to the network.

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Post ID: @hq+1k2zgjhy2

@a7 Infosys and HCLtech - there will be a split of the services such as Applications and Data Center Ops

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Post ID: @hp+1k2zgjhy2

@ej lot's of people have mixed feelings about going back. Honestly Accenture has treated us much better then L3H ever did

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