Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

Intel is past the pivot point and finished and here is why!

You can sometimes fake it if you have no clue. When the $hit hits the fan deep expertises and domain knowledge is a must to sniff out bull $hit and flawed strategies.

All about leadership talent in the respective area.

Today Intel faces overwhelming competition in silicon development, manufacturing, design, test, EDA. You name it in almost every area needed for success Intel is at best equal and in most places have fundamental technology or structural issues to fix or catch up that will take tons of money, real domain knowledge and years of time. But the competition is hungry, well or better funded with significant advantages.

Intel has only the short time advantage of geo politics. That will soon like many political things disappear. Where they have a bigger issue and will fail is talent!

Intel’s BoD, ELT and down to area manager is fundamentally flawed here.

In the past when Intel had a monopoly and leadership it could hide this all.

Now it has all been exposed and the end story is all but certain!

You got mo--ns running and making critical decision LS and can’t smell bull $hit if it hit them in the face

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Post ID: @OP+1k0wx96h

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So can Humpty Dumpty be put back together again ?

IBM, ATT, HP, Kodak, Nokia, DEC, Nokia, Blackberry, Motorola, Cisco, SUN, and many others have shown nope.

When the business fundamentals that drive the rise to the top has changed and leadership, scale lost you are finished!

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Post ID: @8jfa+1k0wx96h

@1had+1k0wx96h, I had to lookup Dunning-Kruger effect but you are spot on...

I learned something on this ridiculous site.

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Post ID: @7tos+1k0wx96h

TSMC just had a ceremony in Az, notice who showed up.

Who shows up at Intels party?

Any question who really matters and who is a going extinct dinosaur? Yeah we’d like dinosaurs to roam the earth but when it is past your time give it up and face reality.

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Post ID: @5qod+1k0wx96h

@4xjo+1k0wx96h. Another HR garbage.

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Post ID: @4gpm+1k0wx96h

Intel is an amazing company and everyone left is also amazing. Sorry to the bunch of ACT people in here whining and hating on such a wonderful place to work. Our products are leading the industry. Intel owns the 5G Edge!!!! Intel still owns ~90% MobileEye. Leading client processors and it's not close... Process parity in next few years. DC lead coming back in a big way.... So sad all you former employee haters in here. So very sad. We love our company!!!!

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Post ID: @4xjo+1k0wx96h

LOL, this site is a cesspool of arm-chair CEOs.

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Post ID: @2icj+1k0wx96h

Yes, IT's SK is still the CTO surrounded by a dozen useless grade 10s...who are retired and just waiting for VAP. They were all very disappointed when VAP was closed off for IT. Now they are collecting their fat pay check like SK waiting for another day. They hate working for German boss MF. Stuck!

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Post ID: @1bbf+1k0wx96h

Intel is the victim of Dunning-Kruger effect.

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Post ID: @1had+1k0wx96h

Ending sentence of last comment meant to be Outward confidence not equal to Actual competence

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Post ID: @1ksq+1k0wx96h

Is IT’s CTO still Sh~a? He was a perfect example of the kind of technical leader that Intel management loved but most engineering staff can’t stand: (1) An endless bloviator, (2) a quick and harsh critic of others while seemingly never reflecting on his own (multiple) shortcomings, and (3) a tendency to make mistakes that others have to fix (which would include promotion of id--ts into prominent roles).

Intel management needs to get a clue. Outward confidence Actual competence

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Post ID: @1vrn+1k0wx96h

The overarching requirement for success at Intel is political protection. Once that is achieved, the fastest way to fellow is just to steal and lie. Actual hard work is difficult and takes too long to pan out. Best to just make stuff up and backstab lower grade engineers and get promoted from loudness of bloviation. Intel managers can’t tell the difference between real and fake engineering anyways.

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Post ID: @1yib+1k0wx96h

From top to bottom, Intel is full of showboats, who are not capable of reducing complex problems to simple solutions. So, what they can do is to bloviate, complicate things unnecessarily, to impress clueless management and to protect and expand their territory.

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Post ID: @1njg+1k0wx96h

I worked at 5-6 companies and Intel by far was the most over-staffed and least productive per worker. Intel is a large, bloated bureaucracy. Too many layers of useless management. Too many redundant groups. Marketing and application support way over-staffed. Bloated validation departments. Too many side projects that stoke the engineering minds but don't generate a lick of revenue or profit. The list goes on. It would be nearly impossible to fix this sort of starting with fresh paper and re-design the entire organization. Won't happen.

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Post ID: @1nud+1k0wx96h

The main problem of this company is that people are bloody incompetent and lazy. Simple 15 minute stuff take bloody month and you end up without automation. I hate seeing it. When I came to US I saw how wrong it is in all ways. About 50% of staff should be fired and rest should take huge pay raises. Why we keep id--ts on all levels? If we want to do business it’s time to say goodbye to all freeloaders. I would rather pay 30k/month to one engineer who’s delivering than 5k for 6 who do nothing(and I know few of them just after few months in US).

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Post ID: @1tcv+1k0wx96h

I disagree 60B is a bad year. Mobile eye gone….divestures to focus on most profitable business. Next year over 50B would be positive based on the tam being taken by the competition year over year.

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Post ID: @1uwx+1k0wx96h

@1sqm+1k0wx96h Well the fate is all but certain, Kodak like legacy for Pat.

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Post ID: @1ysf+1k0wx96h

This was obvious years and years ago.

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Post ID: @1atp+1k0wx96h

I am now at a competitor.

Whenever I interview a candidate from Intel, I am shocked at how incompetent they are. I don’t remember it being this bad when I was there several years ago.

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Post ID: @1aay+1k0wx96h

IFS is the key.
Success of Intel depends on it.
Failure means the end of Intel.

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Post ID: @1sqm+1k0wx96h

@noi+1k0wx96h glad you think like an optimist, let me tell you the real situation!

Tell me besides x86 and complimentary parts what is Intel’s competitive angle? Most of the 60+ billion is x86 client and server that can is being displaced by AMD, Apple, Nvidia and others. Foundry has far richer and expanded factory and offering that is far cheaper. They already have scale and ecosystem so costs will be a huge advantage. Intel needs either tariffs or huge tens of billion subsidies for decades.

You ready for everything with electronics to double in price.

Intel needs to layoff about 30,000 or more and still do what they do, layoffs baby, a lot of souls to sl------r

They are trying to pivot their manufacturing capacity but have neither expertise nor ecosystem advantage

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Post ID: @mta+1k0wx96h

Intel is not going away, they just aren't number one any longer. Not everything needs to be manufactured on the latest process technology. Intel factories will still be turning out as many parts as they can build. Profits and margins will be lower so they need to figure out how to do it with less people and more efficient processes. This is a bad year and Intel will still have revenue over $60 billion. That is not a company on the brink of failure. You just need to have a new metric for success.

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Post ID: @noi+1k0wx96h

Tons of people praying they keep their high paying “do nothing” roles at Intel. They have useless skills outside.

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Post ID: @adr+1k0wx96h

@jxo+1k0wx96h frankly x86 as lucrative and foundational it is the big growth and opportunities are all outside of this for HPC.

Most interesting is a rich diverse flexible capabilities around chiplets. As interesting as Intels offering is, can’t compete on scale, flexibility nor efficiency.

What is lost is the question what is Intels core business. Doesn’t matter what you pick as OP stated under siege and being attacked from competitors with better angles of attack.

Totally guaranteed failure to try and do it all. This is an IBM repeat trying to do mainframes, minis, PC, storage, memory and software. In the end they failed or spun off or those business withered. Intel is the same x86 is their mainframe and everything else will go the route IBM saw. Lesson is IBM is irrelevant in semiconductors, and so will Intel.

BoD and ELT missed the inflection point and are past the recovery point. Unless No Korea or China go crazy Intel will whither to IBM relevance if they are lucky. Let Pat continue his fields of dreams and the outcome will be worse.

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Post ID: @wzp+1k0wx96h

True. When you become an elephant, there will be elephant hunters. Intel sold modem business to Apple. Spun off mobile eye. I see IFS getting spun off and IPO. Other businesses getting sold too. Need to focus on winning businesses, if there are any left?

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