Thread regarding UnitedHealth Group Inc. layoffs

UHC Voluntary Resignation Severance Program

UHC Operations & Experiences 30,000 employees have been offered a Voluntary Resignation (VRSP) program with a window from Feb 24th to the first week of March, with a small severance of 7 weeks to a max of 30 weeks if you've been with the company 25yrs or more. Resignation through VRSP becomes effective on May 1st.

If Resignation quotas aren't met, involuntary layoffs will start.

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Post ID: @OP+1jmad1rds

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Hi, what about PR healthplan until when, about the severance if we get an offer at UHG will loose that benefit so many years worked,

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Post ID: @q3x+1jmad1rds

@47t I’ve gotten my payment but idk I don’t think feel like that’s all I was suppose to get

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Post ID: @een+1jmad1rds

I have not received anything since my last day may 1st . No information on pay or how to return equipment. I'm stressed I have 2 kids graduating this month plus other things. This whole ordeal has been sloppy

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Post ID: @cxc+1jmad1rds

I sent my VRSP signed document over some hinckey secure server on May 2 as I was told to do and have never gotten any acknowledgement that they received it. No information for returning computers. Nothing at all. What the heck. How am I supposed to deal with this? Has anyone else had this happen. I don't know what to do and their helpline was non helpful. I can't help but think they are looking for ways to renig on this whole thing. I can't afford a lawyer for this.

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Post ID: @bqh+1jmad1rds

Well my sister still works at UHC she could not afford to leave and says payout not till June, she heard. I have gotten a call from the employment center that helps look for Jobs but nothing else. I have not slept in 3 days so stressed, just want my money

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Post ID: @bqe+1jmad1rds

Attending the VRSP "Q&A" meeting today for those that elected into the Program, let's see what kind of pi-s-poor excuse they come up with when they have everyone muted, cameras disabled, and chat blocked as well.

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Post ID: @4c0+1jmad1rds

Got my email today? Does anyone know the payout weeks schedule? I’ve been hearing 9 years and my email says 8 weeks? Is that right?

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Post ID: @47t+1jmad1rds

I am taking the buy out I am close to retirement age so it seems to be a good option for me

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Post ID: @2de+1jmad1rds

Yea they will regret going offshore they have done it before and it did not work out. I worked for a partner company for UHC and this is sad lots of people are loosing their jobs. These members do not like talking to offshore advocates they will loose lots of members going this and I know this from experience when I worked for another company as a partner for them and it did not work out. These members CEO is trying to save money for what to loose members. I can’t tell you how many times a offshore advocate would transfer member over to me and I would ask the reason and always they want to talk to an American.

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Post ID: @1jn+1jmad1rds

@c6+1jmad1rds pay grades 28 and under. And to the other poster, stop doing the surveys @everyone

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Post ID: @1cj+1jmad1rds

Some people need their jobs to avoid homelessness and it isn't an option. These layoffs will ultimately trickle down to subsidiary companies. And there is zero warning. The miniscule raises for busting your a-s all year show the writing on the wall.

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Post ID: @1ce+1jmad1rds

No clue which direction to go:( no one talks about this and it’s so vague. Can’t sleep and so stressed:(

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Post ID: @yy+1jmad1rds

How broken is our healthcare system that insurance/medical coverage may be the primary driving factor on whether we take the buyout or not.

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Post ID: @sf+1jmad1rds

Don't know if you have taken a peek at the Cobra rates found on Sparq, but it is about $2700 a month for a family. The marketplace plans (Obamacare) run around $370 a month depending on who you are covering for the cheapest ones, but you are looking at a 9K deductible and some as high as $18k out of pocket max. Offerings by companies I have never heard of, but I did see a BCBS one. I saw they also included prescriptions in that price, but you would need to check your specific med, especially if it is a specialty med. Most plans do not include dental or vision, so that would be a separate standalone policy you would need to get. I know insurance is a huge factor in people's decision, so I wanted to share what info I found going down the rabbit hole in trying to figure this out for myself.

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Post ID: @s7+1jmad1rds

@qg+1jmad1rds

Guess i dont understand - the whole time you had a job and were getting a paycheck, now you start at a new job and start getting a paycheck there. Who cares if you don't get a buyout payment. You won, you got out

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Post ID: @qj+1jmad1rds

I'm going to put on my "Nostradamus hat" and predict that UHC is going to do the following (we'll know more once the VRSP enrollment docs become available next week) - For those of us that are thinking of taking the buyout, UHC is going to have some sort of Corporate BS wording in the application in regards to the final date of employment, like "Last date of employment scheduled for April 30th, 2024, date SUBJECT TO CHANGE." or some cr-p like that. Then as time progresses and those that have elected to take the buyout offer start filling out applications and preparing for employment elsewhere, they do some kind of sh**y rug pull and they'll keep adjusting and postponing the last date of employment in the hopes that we'll get fed up with getting je-ked around (gotta fulfill the agreement in its entirety to get the payout) and we'll just end up quitting without taking the payout to avoid missing out on a new employment start date with another company. I'm not 100% sure they'll do that, but it absolutely wouldn't surprise me one damn bit considering recent events.

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Post ID: @qg+1jmad1rds

unless you're financially ready to retire, i would not take the buyout. Wait it out as long as possible, make them lay you off so you can atleast get unemployment while looking for another job.

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Post ID: @q9+1jmad1rds

If you take the payout package, you would be released May 1st at the earliest. If you are in a critical key role, that may be extended until mid-November potentially. Broadly for most of us though, that means your health insurance would end at the end of the month, May 31, 2025. Something to keep in mind if you have to explore Cobra or the gov't marketplace healthcare for you and your family.

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Post ID: @n9+1jmad1rds

Will you continue to have health insurance through the entire severance payout?
I hate when you leave a job that you lose all the money you put into the company life insurance policy. When things like this happen they should have to give it back to you.

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Post ID: @n7+1jmad1rds

Are the weeks offered in this buy out package gross pay?

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Post ID: @n5+1jmad1rds

Here's a supplemental tax rate link, locate your state and keep that in mind if you take the buyout (Federal is 22% on bonuses, severance pay, commissions, etc).

https://www.patriotsoftware.com/blog/payroll/supplemental-tax-rates-by-state/

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Post ID: @mv+1jmad1rds

Funny that one of our fearless leaders recapped our annual enrollment period just 2 months ago with more superlatives than should be legal. Remarkable, successful, extraordinary, impressive, outstanding, exceptional and astounding! So of course the company is in trouble. Good riddance.

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Post ID: @mp+1jmad1rds

As you make your decision, keep in mind that your buyout is considered supplemental pay according to the sharepoint. Currently that is taxed at 22%. So if you would be getting say 10 weeks, it truly would not be like 10 weeks as if you were paid and taxed normally. Oh, and the 1% merit increases are fun during this time huh? How awesome is it that they named the program VOLUNTARY RESIGNATION SEPARATION PROGRAM so your hopes of your state approving unemployment goes down to nil. To add, if anyone got an RRP bonus, know the IRS want's their 40% cut for working so hard.

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Post ID: @md+1jmad1rds

That first "information meeting" was complete and total BS, just Corporate BS talk reviewing the website they already posted and exclaiming how wonderful of an opportunity this is : I.E., lying to our faces. AGAIN. At this point, honestly, I may just say F it and take the VRSP offer, solely because my sheer and utter disgust with UHC has reached new peaks, higher than that of any company before I've worked with. And for those of you not taking it - Be prepared for a decent amount of "quiet-quitting" and increased workloads without extra pay or compensation with the reduction of workforce. That place is going down the shi**er.

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Post ID: @kp+1jmad1rds

Just sat through the first information session and let me tell you it was a huge waste of time. The answer absolutely no questions about involuntary they make this entire thing seem like it’s a positive aspect and that it’s great for people but yet couldn’t give the answer when it came to involuntary layoffs or any questions like that. Basically the entire meeting, they read off of the SharePoint that they had already provided us told us to look in the SharePoint for more information and sad people were asking questions that didn’t even seem like a legitimate question and it was a blatantly obvious answer. I left with more questions than I came in with, and I am even more unsure of what to do now.

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Post ID: @kn+1jmad1rds

Good luck getting any information. The so-called first information session was today and of course they sold it as a net positive claimed there were no quotas and framed the entire thing as if it was really a good thing they swear. There were no questions answered. They also didn't tell everyone that if you accept a voluntary resignation, know you are ineligible for unemployment benefits. Corporatism is a scourge.

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Post ID: @km+1jmad1rds

I was afraid something like this would happen when the CEO was mu---red. But regardless of what the excuse, it is absolutely ridiculous. If it ends up affecting my coverage in any way I will be the first to be the first to pull my coverage and I don't think I will be the only one. I think your big shots that run the company quit acting like Trump and his mouth King Musk.

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Post ID: @kj+1jmad1rds

Post ID: @g8+1jmad1rds Absolutely correct. I believe they started planning this last October. I knew the way they went about this seemed shady.

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Post ID: @gj+1jmad1rds

I think what happened is they pushed call center on network where they had to take calls for 16 hrs a week to see how many they can push out the door. Then they cut it down to 4 hrs making it look like they are doing them a favor. Then after that they pushed this voluntary resignation to cut folks .

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Post ID: @g8+1jmad1rds

listen @f5+1jmad1rds aka Morris. This is not DT and Musk. This company has been quickly getting worse through the years. Our senators sold us out. They have the good health care that's paid for from our taxes. Not to mention the scams that have been revealed about where our tax $ is being spent. Us - the 99% of the American population - have the too expensive, too easy to deny, healthcare. This company has a British CEO from WHO and a hierarchy of H1Bs that are sending the work and data offshore. They don't care about American healthcare or jobs and why should they??

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Post ID: @fw+1jmad1rds

UHC gives absolutely ZERO fks when it comes to public opinion, whether it be from employees or members. Case in point - Google search "United Healthcare Glassdoor" and take a look as to who they have listed as the CEO (I looked and about laughed my a off). I refuse to let their greedy butts bring me down, and instead use this as a catalyst to update my resume', submit applications, and consider the buyout resignation offer. UHC isn't the only work-from-home job out there, nor are they the only health insurance company. The nice thing about working from home is that I have access to my own personal PC that's 4 feet away from my work station, they can't tell me/control what I do on my own computer. This whole situation su-ks, but I'm going to make lemonade out of lemons.

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Post ID: @fe+1jmad1rds

Besides UHN's enormous greed..It is a fact that DT & Republicans have crowed and bragged about slashing Medicaid & Medicare spending to poor and blue collar Americans .They have proposed over 1 Trillion( with a T) in funding cuts.
One way to keep our jobs is to organize and raise holy he-l with these red state Republicans who are pushing this nonsense. The dad irony is these cuts will hurt their constituents most
CALL YOUR CONGRESSMAN and SENATORS NOW to stop the cuts to Caid & Care! SC--W. ELON MUSK!!!

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Post ID: @f5+1jmad1rds

The last round almost 2 years ago, no one was given an option, it was forced and we got paid 1 week for every year we were there. There are people like me that actually wanted out of the call center and it WAS an opportunity. That severance provided a small nest egg to build my 1099 business. However, I was shell shocked it happened. This absolutely su-ks however be thankful for what it is, an opportunity for some that may be ready to go and a warning for anyone else. Start looking for a better job right now and if you get a job offer somewhere else don't wait, take it. I love how people are complaining about being offered anything, it's a slap in the face? They could have called in the need number of people on the last day of the pay period and sent them home without warning. They could have paid you out for your unused vacation and your current hours worked and any other compensation/bonuses due to you and called it a day. I learned long ago companies don't owe you anything. They pay you for your work, they do not pay you for your loyalty. They buyout is a token of appreciation for your loyalty. Decide if it makes sense to take it or not but stop complaining that it was offered. You are being given a choice and/or warning. It was something that was not afforded to us in the last round of layoffs.

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Post ID: @ey+1jmad1rds

This is an unpopular opinion, but them giving people the option to walk away voluntarily does help certain people out. There are people that already wanted out or are close to retirement and this works. It also helps us out because the more people take it, the better the chances are for us to be able to keep our jobs. They could have not given anyone an option and just fired all of us. They reported that the lost alot of money on Q3 and also the breach cost them billions. Not to mention all the federal budget cuts, so I am not surprised that this is happening. This has been in the works for a while now. Personally, I'm going to stay until I get fired. Unemployment in my state would pay more overtime than I would if I take the package.
So, I mean think about your own personal situation and what would work best for you and your family.

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Post ID: @ex+1jmad1rds

Is the call center effected ?? And are they doing more termination???

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Post ID: @ed+1jmad1rds

If they need this reduction they can lay me off. I'm not resigning.

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Post ID: @eb+1jmad1rds

I find it incredibly disheartening that they have us waiting 48 hours or more to get more information on this. Many of us have so much anxiety it’s hard to work.

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Post ID: @e7+1jmad1rds

I was determined that i would take the payout but now i am not sure. Voluntary pay would be 20 weeks for me and regular severance pay if terminated, is only 4 weeks less than what i would get if i took the payout. I mean what if i stay and then I don't get laid off. My 18 years is coming in July, if i get laid off after that i would get 18 weeks paid. I might stick it out and see what happens.

And if i am terminated i could collect unemployment benefits if needed but wouldnt be able to if i vol. resigned.

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Post ID: @dy+1jmad1rds

Per their own FAQ page,
"What happens if I do not elect in the program? Will I lose my job? Will there be a reduction in force if we don't have enough volunteers?"

"This is a voluntary program that is a personal decision for all employees to consider as it relates to their own career path. If you do not elect to participate in the VRSP, you will continue your employment in the same or a comparable role.
We are optimistic that this voluntary separation offer will suffice to meet our workforce plans. However, if it does not, additional employment actions, including potential involuntary reductions, may be necessary. The voluntary separation offer provides a more generous financial benefit compared to standard involuntary benefits."

So basically they have a number in mind of how many they want to leave and if they don't or they do but it doesn't meet their "workforce plans" they'll still potentially have layoffs, but they're calling them "potential involuntary reductions". So much for "record breaking profits" they brag about at every company meeting...

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Post ID: @dk+1jmad1rds

I hope all of you quit.

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