Thread regarding UnitedHealth Group Inc. layoffs

@d0+1jmad1rds you have no idea what you are talking about.Tim was just promoted. Do you think a resignation/ restructuring program of this magnitude was developed in 39 days? It’s been in the works for months, probably starting last fall when provider ops was restructured. As far as the way it was told to employees, this is a very HR/legal requirement issue.VPs were given a script to read.Having several hundred people ask questions to a VP who doesn’t know the ins and outs is a huge problem. Attend a future meeting and learn.If it works for you then take it.If not, stay and be happy you have some warning of future reduction.Or continue to be a keyboard warrior with head in sand, not prepared and pray you live in a state with great unemployment. Unfortunately, most are 260-450 week before taxes.

EVERYBODY! Leave bad reviews of Tim Noel in every website you can find, he's singlehandedly destroying DECADES of TRUST in the strength and stability (in exchange for low pay) of UHC!

UHC no longer serves it's purpose as a recession resistant job, if they do this when they have record profits and revenue, what won't they do in the future?

It was very very disrespectful to all of us how they did this. Call a meeting and try to act as if it is a great opportunity they are offering. Giving such a short time to decide. Private sector is acting before hand. I see so many law suits they are involved in. They get money from Medicare and I heard medicare was being hit today. Medicaid was already hit. Some plans have medicaid with them so they will be losing money there also. A company that makes billions doing employees like this is horrible. I know Medicare has been upset with UHC and UHC sued Medicare recently for giving them a 4 star rating out of 5 which UHC said cost them money. UHC won because Medicare did not follow proper procedure which was to notify UHC ahead of time. This company makes millions and want to give us pennies for evaluations/raised but say how great you are doing. They don't care about employees just as they don't care about members. If you don't take the resignation package and they don't meet quota, they will lay off/terminate and they will start with low performers, attendance etc. Unless you have been here awhile and making a lot of money, the package may be worth it. They need to trim the fat off and usually that is at the top. The way they did the meeting, muted everyone and dropped it on us and then left just left me speechless. Morale was definitely down in my department. I felt sick and wanted to go home but I didn't. Instead I called my senators and gave them a piece of my mind. I feel like this is a horrible nightmare for the last 3 week. I am sure a lot of members may leave but not because members care so much about us but because it may affect service. Even refusing the offer, it is still a lot of stress wondering if terminations are coming. They are so secretive and gas lighters no transparency at all. UHC only tells you what they want you to know when they are ready and no thought to the rug they are pulling from under you. Last week I heard the person who occupies the white house say that they were going to make private companies that are publicly traded or receive any federal funding to force them to do away with DEI programs and force all employees working from home return to the office. UHC is publicly traded. They ill comply. The government did not come in and tell them they had to do this. I am keeping everyone in my thoughts don't give up.

Y’all still giving surveys after this? 😂😂🤣

What departments are getting this?

These ideas are just like what the new president is doing with the federal "layoffs" monkey see ,monkey do. Ruining people's lives to save a buck or to keep filling their pockets with poor people's money

Been with this company almost 10 years. To say I'm disgusted with this situation is an understatement! The way it was presented to us as an "amazing opportunity" is ridiculous. They care little for their members and even less for the employees. Greed is the company moto!

They have to meet a quota for their budget so they want you to resign first and if they don't meet that quote then they'll be involuntary layoffs I don't believe they'll lay off 30,000 people but we'll find out in the informational seminars this week. Logistically speaking it would be hard to transfer claims out for example people that work in STD long-term life and supplemental health we don't have automation so they would have a hard time getting rid of these claims to other carriers

Addition bit of info in regards to the PTO cashout - If you bought extra PTO at the end of last year (lets say 40 hours) and used it up this year and are going to be sitting at a 0 hours accrued PTO balance if you take this offer, you're going to have to pay that PTO back. So a tiny 7 week severance package offer just got reduced to 6 weeks if you dont have any PTO left when you leave, just something to keep in mind (if you bought the PTO and didnt use any of it, you're good, they'll just take it back though and not let you cash out the extra PTO you bought and got credited for at the end of Jan).

Don’t get su-kered into the pto cr-p. CHECK your state Regulations. Seven states ie Illinois mandates they pay you every last minute of your PTO. Include that when figuring what you will walk away with

What happens if your on leave and you don’t decide to take the vrsp? I just had a baby and I am on leave until next month but only have until march to decide I’m confused.. if you do decide to take it and it’s 10weeks base pay does that mean the gross pay and is it the amount of 5checks since were paid bi weekly? Hr called me today to advise and I wasn’t interested but not im wondering if I should call them back or not. Please help

I'm gunna call their bluff and NOT take this cr-p offer (7 weeks severance is an absolute slap in the face, been there going on 4 years now), would rather get fired and claim unemployment benefits that UHC HAS to pay, and it'll spread even more bad press with the company, making the new CEO look even worse with stock prices declining even further as a result.
Also, mathematically, if you're offered 7 weeks of severance, you would get more $ long-term with unemployment if you can't find a decent job with comparable wages within 4 months or so, depending on the state. So yeah, F them, they're gunna "reward" all of the reps busting their butts after the busiest time of the year with this cr-p? Sc--w that, call their bluff and make em pay out the nose with unemployment benefits and the shareholders take a huge loss 2nd & 3rd Quarters with the negative press.

It’s funny that on Friday, I get my evaluation and told I’m doing a wonderful job with a small raise and an almost $600 bonus. I logged into work with my morale boosted just for it to be knocked all the way down two hours later. Disgusting.

This did not affect everybody under Mike Baker. Are they doing calls all this week or was the call just for Monday?????

If you haven’t been with the company long and the offer is only 7 weeks severance, do your research to see the comparison for unemployment. In some states, UE could be a better option than what is being offered.

don't know why anyone has not mentioned this, but if you take the voluntary layoff, you will not qualify for unemployment, and i can guarantee they aren't offering as much security as you would get with unemployment benefits. Let them fire you, take the unemployment (that they have to pay). The small time frame here is calculated, scare you into taking a meager severance so they have to pay out less unemployment.

It’s not a bluff If UHC is pushing for voluntary resignations, a union could potentially help protect employees by negotiating or pushing back against these efforts. A union strike might also apply pressure on the employer and affect their decision-making process.

Unions often advocate for the rights and job security of their members, and they can use collective bargaining to negotiate better terms or conditions. If the voluntary resignations are seen as a way to reduce workforce size improperly or pressure employees, the union might challenge this approach. They can organize strikes, legal challenges, or negotiate with UHC to prevent job losses. The specific influence of a union in this situation would depend on the terms of the union contract and labor laws in place.

So what happens if you are out on disability leave until July? But your department was affected by this? I haven’t even gotten a call from UHC.

Where are you all getting that 30k people need to be let go? It is my understanding that is the population of people who they gave an option to (i.e. everyone under Mike Baker). That doesn't mean that is how many need to be cut. There seems to be a lot of confusion around this.

Originally we were told that E&I wouldn’t be included. When we got in the meeting they told us if we’re in that meeting, we are part of the 30,000 getting the voluntary resignation offer. An absolute slap in the face after just having my evaluation done on Friday and told I was doing great and they would love to see me in a higher position. I was the last hiring class our location had and I genuinely don’t know what to do. I have a 1.5 year old daughter and have absolutely no clue what to do. I feel sick to my stomach. They refused to answer any questions, just told us how we got through the “busy season” then absolutely blindsided us with this garbage.

Hearing Medicaid was hit hard. Wondering if more of us are to come in the 30,000 since my department in E&I was not included.

7 weeks is just not enough. My heart goes out to everyone

My wife has been employed by this company for 19 1/2 years. This is unbelievable. This definitely stinks and smells like billionaires are planning to announce a buyout or takeover. Musk, Bezos, or even Buffet could be behind this debacle. It defintely feels like Elon has a hand in it.

So glad I’m not with this company. Change merged with UHC and then I was redeployed to a horrible job. Got a new job and left promptly. UHC is going down the drain. Good luck yall.

Not surprising with all the nonsense in the government these days - but I wonder if this is just United States employees or does this include the global partners who are also part of UHC?

I think they're looking for low performers, new hires, those retiring this year and those who make a lot, to take the offer.
While most severance packages can be really nice in a lump sum, it seems they're holding a lot back. Idk. All mics were muted and all cameras blocked. No questions to ask.
I get it. You don't want a lash out or be rushed with hundreds of questions, but be honest with us. You really think HR is going to answer these questions? Nope, they'll give us a SharePoint or PI to find the answer.

I'm only getting 7 weeks. Been here almost 4 years. Missed 5 years by 2 days (May 3rd) it took me 11 applications over the course of 6 months to get a job with this company, and for what?? I applied at other places and worked, but I was so excited to land this job with my education, then I dodged lay offs and my manger was never transparent with our teams, we truly relied on other team smes and sups for help, bc our manager hadn't a clue of the process.
Maybe I'm being sour about this, but 7 weeks for almost 5years of hard work, and working every single overtime allotted. Missing every weekend from August to March to work overtime so we stayed above water and I could provide for my children. I missed so much time with my family because I want my children to have a better life than I had growing up. Literally in tears bc I look at my 3, 5 & 7 year old and all I see are smiles. Inside I'm torn apart and feel like I did it wrong.
Haven't told my wife. I don't know how I'm going to tell her, other than tell her I'm sorry I missed our time together, when I should have been out back playing, I was glued to computer screens on the weeknights and every weekend so I can provide a good life for them.
I'm not a very emotional person. I have to be strong for my wife and kids, tonight is going to break me in tears, nothing any of them have ever seen from me before.
I'm sorry everyone. It's the loss of many that the few get to stay. What a world

Consider the following: If the company does not meet its quota of 30,000 (which is likely), involuntary layoffs will proceed, potentially without a severance package. You need to make a prompt decision, weighing all options and the associated stress. If you opt for the voluntary layoff you can at least walk away with a severance package with time to look for employment else where. If you opt to not take the VRSP and remain employed, you may still be at risk of future layoffs, by the company not meeting the quota. It is crucial to evaluate your situation carefully and decide the best course of action.

It is imperative to contact HR for a detailed discussion about your severance package options with this VRSP. Inquire about your benefits, including PTO (only 40 hours will be paid out), and any other benefits related to your tenure with the company.

All of this seems like there’s more going on that what’s being said. We couldn’t ask any questions in our meeting whatsoever. It’s being souped up for retirement opportunities, being a stay at home mom or learning new hobbies. This shows that these companies don’t care about us.

Does anyone know what the buyout entails for someone who has been with the company 13 years?

Part of me wants to call their bluff and see if they meet the quota and I keep my job... but on the other hand, I could end up laid off anyway.

I wonder if anyone over seas got this offer? Like India or Ireland!

If you leave and come back within the time frame of severance, you have to pay the difference back, been there done that. So if you get 12 weeks and come back to UHC at 8 weeks you owe them back 4 weeks of severance. That is at least how it us on a regular lay off.

I just heard the news from a neighbors friend while mowing my lawn, so I had to dig into this a little. Here's what I've been told and found.

UHC is giving an insulting and absolutely cruel severance for most all of those who are employed. You have 1 1/2 weeks (March 3rd) to take the VRSP, and if you don't.... Are you fired on March 4th? Or EOW? Last day being the 1st of May of you take the VRSP.

I feel absolutely horrible for everyone who put their faith in this company, customers alike, me being a customer.

The New CEO is very condescending and fake! But hey, they had to throw some in there to take the heat. Remember that movie 'Fun with Di-k And Jane'? They bring in a new guy to take over and then everyone is loosing their jobs bc of, well, I won't ruin it for you if you hadn't seen it.

The New Guy:
What does the public know of him? Seems like a stand up person right?
Starting out with an introduction to everyone the day he took his position saying everyone here is working extremely hard and we appreciate all your hard work, but your bonus this year will be significantly cut, to mer dollars. (Something along those lines of not very close). Cutting bonuses, then weeks later jobs? Where is Clark Grizzwalds brother in law when ya need him. I'm trying to lighten the mood a little for you folks.

They're holding back far more than they should be and this is absolutely cruel for the employees and the customers.

You might be asking: Is this VRSP worth it?
Well, that depends on your grade level and your years of service to this company. To say they're copying the Federal buy out, is to be nothing short of watered down.
I'll explain. If you've been with the company for less than 25 Years, you won't see anything past 3 months severance. Now take this into consideration when asking yourself this question. Do I have health issues or support someone who has health issues, what's the cost of living where you live, do you rent or own your house, or car or other toys, do you have children, are you the only one working in the house, what's the job market like in your area and lastly, what is the unemployment % weekly payment in your state. Those are all key factor to be looking at and analyzing. The Federal employees got a 8 month pay with benefits and can find a job and work during those 8 months. In my opinion, that's pretty generous, 8 MONTHS!!! the low end of the company will likely get 7-12 weeks pay with benefits and that's it.
Have PTO? Are you pregnant or adopting in the next couple of weeks -2 months? If so, say goodbye to paid paternity leave if you choose the VRSP.Looks like you'll cash in on your PTO tho (if they're or their word). Is your "Non compete" still valid, or can you go to another Insurance company??
Again, insurance doesn't me assured. Ask fact finding questions to your managers, and attended any HR activities that follows suit with this activity.

I've seen this in companies before, BUT not to this extreme extent, well, for a health insurance company who has a customer base of over 30 million members. A first for a health insurance company, that profits over 14+ BILLION in a year and is publicly traded. A lot of craziness going on with the company and it seems it stems from upper management not being transparent with a vast majority of things. Will they be within the next few days to a week before the deadline? Time will tell.

In conclusion of my own opinion, there's something much bigger going on with the company. Maybe a buyout? Elon? the government? Amazon?.. seriously worth thinking about. Drastic measures have been taken, I find it absolutely appropriate to dig into why this is happening. A company who profits over 14+BILLION a year, cuts bonuses, lay offs last year, and now a VRSP not even 6 months later with an absurd and cruel severance. A gym membership would be better than that garbage offer.
I'm just an outsider looking in. In my opinion, transparency is 110% warranted to the public< and to all of you who work there. Why? bc it is publicly traded on the stock market, and MILLIONS may be affected by this in one way or another. I sure hope not. I'm rooting for good things for all of you.

I'm not quitting, fu-k that.

Only pay health insurance through the end of the month you leave.

Does the company pay for Health Insurance in the severance package?

My professional opinion if you are needing or wanting a job in the medical insurance sector, if you leave you may find it difficult to find other positions making same pay (if not entry level). I think government contracts are changing so they know they will be losing money and most medical insurance companies will be cutting where they can to make up difference.

This really throws morale under the bus

If you have PTO, I was told you can only take 40 hrs of it with you.

Wife has been there 4 years and only given a week to decide. Furious how this is playing out. Is the company getting overwhelmed with lawsuits and insider trading? What's going on? Should she take the severance?