Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

RTO - What's Plan B?

Back when RTO was first announced there was major employee backlash. The C suite must have thought we'd all "get used to it" by now, but that hasn't happened (nor should it - RTO was wrong then, and it's still wrong now).

As we all know, the hubs are barren. I come into a mostly empty campus on the days I foolishly drag myself in here.

Even if it wasn't empty, I'd be surrounded by strangers. And we would remain strangers - people don't go up to random cubicles and say "hi, what's your job here? Let's be forever friends!" There is no 'collaboration'.

RTO non-compliance will not improve. 3 days a week, given Wells Fargo's highly distributed model, is draconian. No one wants to be here. Forced attendance does not foster collaboration - it does the opposite.

But, we all know that RTO has nothing to do with collaboration. It has to do with property tax deals and tax deductions.

Will the C suite wise up and start selling campuses? Or will everyone just keep giving a huge middle finger to RTO, making the C suite look even weaker than they do today?

If the bank starts disciplining employees for non-compliance, they'll have to discipline ALL employees that aren't complying. For all sorts of reasons, that will never happen. Not even Wells can weather that barrage of lawsuits.

So what's plan B for RTO?

Predictions?

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Post ID: @OP+1jIY1oMO

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I'm not a business tax expert but may be someone in this forum is. I'm curious to hear if the claims being made that RTO is necessary because of a tax strategy. I'm sure there's more to this.

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Post ID: @3alh+1jIY1oMO

@kej+1jIY1oMO

My experience as well. It's human nature really. When you force people together they are MUCH less likely to interact positively vs just letting it happen organically. I'm not discussing my work or what my group does with anyone that doesn't have a business need to know. So yeah, I'll talk about the weather for 30s and then get back to work. It's a complete waste of company resources with no valid business case the justify it.

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Post ID: @2vfc+1jIY1oMO

There is no Plan B. Management is not worried. Two reasons:

  1. Lawsuits are a "cost of doing business" which is already factored in. That's ingrained in the management culture here.
  1. When the recession comes - and it IS coming - management knows that they will be empowered. Prior to the recession it was the TEAM MEMBERS who were empowered. That is going to change 180 degrees, and management knows that all they need to do is wait.
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Post ID: @1fkm+1jIY1oMO

Location strategy is also one of those things that is varying depending on business group. In certain groups with high turn over, they are easing off from it, and open to non-hub hires. It would be nice to know which execs fully support RTO and location strategy, and which ones are more wise in their approach.

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Post ID: @1pzy+1jIY1oMO

My team is also physically located in other states. Leadership says one reason to RTO is for collaboration. Our floor is empty also, I choose the desk the farthest from the entrance, and haven't said a word to anyone since RTO.

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Post ID: @kej+1jIY1oMO

@ivc+1jIY1oMO

Unless they can relocate customers, that ain't gonna work. My team is distributed geographically for a reason, they have to be where customers are.

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Post ID: @sjg+1jIY1oMO

@fio+1jIY1oMO

So if RTO enforcement doesn’t begin until January, why the heck have I been driving to my empty office 3 days a week since April? Might as well just go back to WFH until January, I guess…

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Post ID: @cam+1jIY1oMO

Manager in a meeting passed along that RTO enforcement will begin in January. Said it will affect not just bonuses but overall performance assessment next year.

So I guess Wells really is going to weather the lawsuits. There's no way everyone will be enforced equally even though it's an enterprise-wide policy.

This will be the main scandal next year - multiple individual and class action lawsuits for unequal treatment.

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Post ID: @fio+1jIY1oMO

These aren’t the type of leaders with plans. Expect knee jerk reactions followed by anger at the fallout of their actions

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Post ID: @xiv+1jIY1oMO

Consideration is being given to allowing smoking in offices again along with beer Fridays.

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Post ID: @fxz+1jIY1oMO

Plan B is reportedly to double down and start pilot testing the replacement of tissues/hand sanitizers on the cubicles with plates full of coke & blo to encourage greater office attendance.

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Post ID: @zou+1jIY1oMO

It will come down to location strategy, i.e. the “hubs,” ultimately those who aren’t in a hub will lose their jobs. Some will get the invitation to move, but not all. I’ve heard this mentioned before going back a year or two, and from execs, not peons.

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Post ID: @ley+1jIY1oMO

Nah, they know a recession is coming and ppl will “need” them and they will hold all the power. For now, they do little until the job market is more to their advantage.

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Post ID: @gtj+1jIY1oMO

I shouldn't have to relocate across country since I am west coast and my team is east coast.

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Post ID: @ndd+1jIY1oMO

for those who complain about rto with the argument that no one on their team is in their office that is where location strategy will come into play and eventually we will widdle down our real estate holdings to a few large campuses/hubs and you'll have the option to relocate to where you group is.

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Post ID: @ivc+1jIY1oMO

The RTO circus will continue cuz it's led by clown Charlie. Just that simple. They will lie about in office numbers, but the truth is out there, everywhere.

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Post ID: @rum+1jIY1oMO

Chuckles can't even meet efficiency numbers after 4 years. What a fail.

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Post ID: @xcv+1jIY1oMO

Punt…jobs to India.

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