Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

@4mlb Sounds like @OP already knows this. Carry on.

How to get big pay raises. Kiss a$$ , be the bosses best friend, cash in. Nothing new. Seen it in several departments and directorships. Go have beers after work, get a big 15% merit increase.

I make lot overtime in board factory. Sometime it more than 100K. hard work and they yell at me to work faster.

I'm in the same boat pretty much.
E1: 65k
E2: 86k
E3: 100k
Sr: ???

• Document your duties in HOS
• Mentor an Engineer from a COE Center of Excellence
• Better yet, review any patent disclosures with the West for East strategy in China market
• Fellows get lost in the org, simply look elsewhere unless you're a cradle to grave type
• Finally, your role in retrospect has been documented and can be outsourced to a low-cost region.
• Restructure that fixed cost indirect labor for H12023 and allocate to Executive bonus plan
• bye bye Band 4

Don't go into management of you want to avoid going to he-l.

B3 - $110l

had a team member on B3 make over $140K, don't think they had any bonuses or incentives. no promotions....you get stuck at Honeywell.

I had a manager who doesn't even know the seniority levels, they thought Senior was higher than Lead or Principle, among the many other baffling incompetencies.

The vast majority of those making $250K up are in the management ranks. Technical line tops out around there, and there are very limited opportunities to advance that far.

Management jobs are simply different than technical ones. You will be required to align your thought process with executives, or you will not stay long. If that's your bag, it is the way to go. If not, stay technical and understand the limitations. Most engineers do the latter.

Do not stay at honeywell. You have learned what you can and will learn and grow more in a different company. Go and come back in a few years if you want.

If you have a conscience, I would not recommend the management route. I left in Sr Management because I was losing sleep and it was impacting my health. You will be asked (told) to put people on PIPs that you know shouldn’t be.

Ignore the negativity and do move into management. The advice you have received is correct. Congratulations on moving faster than many if us!

B4 = RIF bait.

I’m a Lead Eng, and MIP dropped to 5% across GBE. 2020 and 2021MIP was dropped to 65% of that target (not performance related). If you are B3 and already making 130K, then it’s not worth it…

MIP is 10% for Lead and Principal, 15% for Fellow. It is unlikely you will ever make Fellow as they have tightened that up significantly. It you stay on the technical ladder you will be stuck at Principal forever with increases that don’t even cover inflation. The management track is the only way to advance.

B4
North Haven, CT
Embedded Systems

20 yrs total experience, 11 yrs with HON
Total comp: $209K (out of which $182K is the base and $27K is the bonus)

I would go the management route, your advancement path is pretty long and if you are really good it can be very lucrative. Go for it and do not listen people who tell you that mgmt sucks.