Honeywell will let you sit in your spot and just give you 1-2% raises. If you want to know what they really think about you, apply for a job with a promotion in another group. The hiring manager will inform your current manager if they want to hire you. At that point they will counter/match the offer if you are seen as critical or in their long term plans. If they don't counter, move on as you are considered replaceable in your current role.
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I like this. Well said, @3gap+1iEdifMu
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4 things:
- It will always be case by case. Although there are stated philosophies around "competing" and "matching"- the specific circumstances will dictate what happens.
- It will NOT determine "what they think of you" if the manager does not match. See 1) above. The manager may desire to, but the department or HR may overrule based on the circumstances.
- Of course it's a good thing to apply for better positions.
- Whoever said applying for positions you obviously are not qualified for gave bad advice. I remember this dude who applied for every Director role that came up. It became a running joke with every open position- "Well, we got 6 qualified applicants, and "ole Johnny"! Needless to say, he had a rep.
Anything is possible but that's one area HR ties the hands of managers. Very difficult for a manager to match pay in that scenario. Most (all) will choose not to fight that fight. Too many levels of approvals.
No such thing is matching or counter offer.
This is true, it's important to control your career development and applying for other roles shows initiative and your desire to grow. Sometimes it's good to apply for a job far above you skills even. Just don't do it as a threat because you might get that job that you didn't really want. Sometimes the worst thing they can say is YES!
Sad days when you have to put in for a promo what happened when companies appreciated you and gave it to you yes yes it's Honeywell way PSH UNREAL
Don't bother. Just leave. You'll realize how underpaid your really are and how much other companies are not at all like Honeywell.
BS. Managers compete every day.
You realize managers can't compete within the organization, right?