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Our manager insists on having a useless meeting every Monday morning. Can anyone relate?

This has been going on for years. He has sold his manager on the idea that the meeting is necessary to get everyone “in the right headspace” for the week. Employees have to set time-sensitive and critical work aside so this manager can validate his position in the office. No problems are solved at these meetings. No new ideas born. It is a repetitive recap of what we all know happened last week, and a repetitive pre-cap of what we all know is going to happen this week. It is the ultimate waste of time.

It is all is about corporate hierarchy and control. But true leaders don’t feel the need to gather and talk to their employees like school children. “Dan, tell the class what you did last week.” True leaders don’t control their people, they inspire them.

This is where Wells Fargo goes wrong. They place a higher value on “the illusion” of preparation, oversight, engagement, and leadership rather than actually doing the work necessary to prepare, oversee, engage and lead.

Our managers fall all over themselves trying to prove their value to the bank in a way they think will get the high marks come review time. Keep smiling! Stay upbeat even though they keep cutting staff and expenses! Write up exciting plans and present them on PowerPoint, but don’t do anything! Get involved in Wells Fargo Volunteers! And keep holding those meetings!

Word to our managers:
We understand. We all know how difficult it is to prove your value and get ahead here. We don’t like the review and ranking system either. This is a tough environment. All that we ask is that you not make us suffer for years so that you can put the weekly meeting soundbite on your annual performance review.

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Post ID: @OP+1i9g5ZZf

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I work on a team with co-managers....double the fun.

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Post ID: @3rcq+1i9g5ZZf

It's called "Agile".

A never ending series of useless daily meetings proctored by equally useless managers.

Hint to managers: If you are the only one that's talking, and everyone else is silent, then something is wrong.

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Post ID: @1kpc+1i9g5ZZf

We have a meeting once a month. We are too busy to have weekly meetings, what a waste of time. The groups with daily meetings are even worse off - that's an even bigger waste of time.

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Post ID: @1hxh+1i9g5ZZf

I once filled out an employee survey with all the detail of all the useless meetings like this thinking it would be anonymous. Then the same manager scheduled more meetings trying to figure out if there was a way to have less meetings but everyone was so booked with meetings that they had to have the meetings after 5pm. Anyhoo, I left that group and they still randomly invite me to meetings.

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Post ID: @1cli+1i9g5ZZf

I still have one executive over me and many others and he has a quarterly meeting and fails in his attempts to appear concerned and interested. His initials are cs.

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Post ID: @1eqe+1i9g5ZZf

Every meeting is considered a "deliverable" in their reports to upper management. Hence, the more meetings - the more productive he appears. Also, it makes him feel important too. And to make sure people are aware he is still around even if he's not doing anything useful.

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Post ID: @1dwu+1i9g5ZZf

'They place a higher value on “the illusion” of preparation, oversight, engagement, and leadership rather than actually doing the work necessary to prepare, oversee, engage and lead. '

Comes with being an executive. You're a face and a name, not an employee.

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Post ID: @zgz+1i9g5ZZf

@eoo. I agree. 90% of meetings are BS. Any meeting over a half hour loses peoples attention, even before the Twitter generation!

I remember two hour and half day meetings in the past that do nothing but put people asleep.

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Post ID: @tsu+1i9g5ZZf

Our manager holds multiple meetings every week for the sole purpose of listening to himself talk. Everyone else is expected to shut up and listen - unless they chime in to agree with or compliment said manager. There are a few people who can be counted on to do so in every meeting.

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Post ID: @uyh+1i9g5ZZf

Op here. I’m not opposed to work. I’m opposed to bs.

Warren Buffett considers most meetings as a giant waste of time, which disrupt workers’ flow and eat in to productivity.

Far too many meetings at WFC are routine, unproductive, and poorly run, We have too many managers who are unsure about their roles and feel the need to justify their pay, so they respond by generating pointless meetings.

It has been said that “The least productive people are usually the ones who are most in favor of holding meetings.”

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Post ID: @eoo+1i9g5ZZf

Got you beat. Ours has two every week, and he’s long- winded so they’re 90 minutes each. They are mandatory. They’re not first thing Monday, though, so there’s that.

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Post ID: @kkk+1i9g5ZZf

This is more "Stone-Age" management common across the bank with managers past their Expiration Date. Some still want status reports... It's the only way for managers to appear engaged and providing value.

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Post ID: @vdg+1i9g5ZZf

I have a feeling we’ve worked in the same area. My sympathies.

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Post ID: @zwh+1i9g5ZZf

I had a previous job where we had one at 7am every morning with an offshore team so they wouldn’t have to stay late. Of course the onshore folks were really thrilled (I am an early bird anyway so I didn’t care). So this kind of thing has gone in for years. That’s why they call this WORK.

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