Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Higher Pay and Markability

Meeting with my new VP, and here is his answer to the question of when the company will offer competitive pay vs the industry: go take that industry job with the higher pay. That is a realistic answer, don't expect this company to do you a solid and just pay you more, not going to happen.

I have 10+ years of service, worked with some competent and intelligent people. While technology (network and IT) has evolved and simplified, the oppressive bureaucracy gets worst year after year. The management method hasn't changed since the 90s, when the web was new but senior management still knows best, younger folks have to ask their parents about this era.

Do I have marketable transferable skills? How to explain to hiring managers that my best results was to navigate this land of oz while protecting the integrity of the work with my hands tided? I may have better luck becoming an organizational psychologist.

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what's Markability ?

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Post ID: @6fut+1htwgYgT

Reality check: Numbers from career intelligence, for Senior/Principal roles in the company:

Release Train Engineer - 40
Agile Coach - 20
Data Scientist - 70

Needless to say, these titles only existing in specific orgs, they are more exclusive than VPs. Do high paying technical jobs exist, of course they do. Are there career paths to help develop people into these roles? What are your chances are getting one?

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Post ID: @6jwd+1htwgYgT

It’s BS really. AT&T pays very, very well. Especially in IT where demand is high. Software Engineer, System Engineer, Scrum Master, Applications Developer, Release Train Engineer, Solution Train Engineer, Agile Coach, Advanced Analytics, Data Scientist, Advanced Technical Support. These disciplines all pay incredibly well with TSR max right at $145,000 up to $190,000 for 2nd level positions (IC4, IC5, IC6 - Professional, Senior, Principal) in any N1 zone which is the lowest. Member of Tech Staff (R&D) is even higher across the board.

If you think for one minute you can run off and go find better pay and benefits outside of AT&T domestically, then go ahead and do it. No need to come on this site acting stupid and making stuff up about being underpaid at AT&T. It’s simply not true.

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Post ID: @3vbx+1htwgYgT

I really like the guy's honesty frankly. Got a better job offer, higher pay elsewhere? Go. Take it. No one is going to beg you to stay here.

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Post ID: @2fcz+1htwgYgT

If you think you MIGHT be paid more at another company then start seriously looking while you are still working here, and if you find that company tell them you can start immediately and go for it.

If you REALLY think you will be worth more at another company then quit TODAY and start searching full time for your next employer.

In this rare time that employers cannot find enough employees willing to work, your actions will show how much confidence you really have.

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Post ID: @1ytg+1htwgYgT

T needs coders who can do the job and do it cheaper than the industry standard. Everybody else is expendable.

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Post ID: @1mhj+1htwgYgT

Oh you were on Ziellers call too? He has said it 2 or 3 other times. ATT is good a recycling leaders. Don’t worry WI-FI, CBR, MOCN and private networks are gonna save us. LOL

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Post ID: @1fcq+1htwgYgT

With available jobs in abundance in the USA, perhaps, T feels that if you're not happy with the pay and benefits here, then there's ample opportunity elsewhere. Roll the dice and give it your best shot. AND, you should! If you think you have valuable skills that the labor market can utilize more than T, then go for it! The days of employee loyalty to corporate America are long behind us! Keep searching for a better job and do what the millennials will do throughout their careers! Just have to be smart with your money and plan for retirement the right way! The days of being coddled by your employer are over! You're on your own and you're now the Boss of you, your career and your destiny!

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