What % of the 2600 San Ramon-based employees opt to move to Houston?
I think no more than one-third decide to move to Texas.
No knock on Houston, I just don't think Bay Area residents want to re-locate their families.
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Houston may not be the most exciting place, but during spring, fall, and Winter months, the weather is nice overall, and there are beautiful areas, such as West Texas Hill Country, East Texas Piney woods, etc.etc. Awesome state!
Hot as hèll, wèed’s illegal, and random dr-g testing. Seems like a bummer.
Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you, lmao!!!
I think 10% of San Ramon workforce to Houston is too low. My guess is 20%___ execs, middle managers and folks that want to give Texas a try
Periphery taxes such but houses are dirt cheap!
And it will only get worse. No funding for schools. Kids stuffed in overcrowded rooms. Banning books. Teachers and kids being gunned down while cops twiddle their thumbs. Conservatives doing their damn best to make the lives of children and teachers a living nightmare.
Texas is a disaster. It used to be cheap but companies are getting big tax breaks while the average home owner is paying big for property taxes. Our power grid is a struggling every day. The weather is rough and the cities are pretty dirty. I could completely understand people not wanting to move here.
Having lived and work in the San Ramon and Houston offices many times, I can assure you Houston is way, way cheaper for housing, goods and services.
Everyone knows Houston is not a place to live. The issue is that almost all oil and gas jobs are in Houston and as such if you are in oil industry the chances or living in Hiuston for your job is over 75%. If you are lucky you may end up in Denver, Austin, Dallas, or even Oklahoma City [still better than Houston]. If you can find a job that pays the bills and puts the bread on the table in the bay area, stay where you are.
@2oxx A lot of people were lured to TX by the promise of affordable housing, low taxes, and wages/salaries that kept pace with the overall cost of living. All of this was true for a long time, but not anymore.
If you haven’t been to TX, believe me when I tell you that you’re not missing anything.
While Houston is better than most of Texas, why would anyone want to live in a state like Texas?
Giving people the option is genius because it puts it all on the employees. The result will allow management to decide what type of HQ to have - how many people. The goal will be to have as few as possible, exactly like we had in San Francisco before the HQ moved to SR in 2002. Or the Unocal Los Angeles HQ. Both were but a few hundred people. So, the goal is to eliminate around 2000 out of 2600 positions in SR, either by voluntary move to Houston or otherwise. This is just the first phase. Choose carefully, possums!
10-15% of eligible people..
Only one response with a % guess?
@1oih That ain’t even a joke. They’re already putting up bills that will ban interstate travel for pregnant women and make it illegal to use birth control. Chances are they’ll all pass and be signed into law.
On top of that, Texas isn’t even that cheap anymore, so it’s really not worth putting up with the reactionary BS that goes along with living there.
You may need to stock up on Condoms for your daughter, I hear they are planning to ban contraceptives' in Texas, so when she gets knocked up by some re----k and the state forces her to have the kid watch out.
Texas property taxes are insane. Better to rent from someone with a low tax scenario. California is bad at 1% but some states even lower.
My guess is less than 10%
I did the move in 2013. Was over 55 plus 30 years. It all worked out. Note to those who chose The Woodlands, property taxes are way higher. I bought a Trendmaker home in Conroe for 500k and 2.2 percent property tax. The Woodlands in some neighborhoods are 3.5 percent. That is common all over Houston. Read the fine print in a housing contracts. The Commute. I45 is absolutely brutal. No point of using HOV lanes. Usually a crash regardless. Weather. Hot. Way hotter than you can get used to. I lived in Conroe/Houston for four years. Texas isn’t that bad. I just wasn’t born there. A couple other things. This is a fact. If you are on a relocation program and spend the last few years in Texas thinking you can get a package, think again. To move back to California after living in Texas you can only use the relocation pack or the severance. You cannot have both if a severance comes up and you are eligible. That’s for those over 55. It’s gotta be similar as that in 2013. If you do decide to move to Houston for Gods sake keep your home! There are options to rent rooms downtown close to work from CVX employees and you can fly back to Californian once a month or something till you retire. By the way I’m a staunch Republican and lived in Montgomery County one of the most conservative counties in Texas. I didn’t move to Texas to change politics. I moved to complete my age 59 and 1/2 and 36 years. Yes I started in 1981.
Most of the jobs will move. A few people will be allowed to stay but most who don’t move will see their job disappear and be mysteriously filled in Houston. If you are more than a year or two from retirement you should go. You can rent your house out and return or leave family behind.
Yep! Please spread the word! Texas is horrible! You dont want to come here. Stay in California! Please!
Lots of people looking to leave Texas for one reason - Stupid people
Don't let the door hit you on your a-- on the way out. There are going to be millions of Californians leaving the state and they will all be looking for the same thing - WATER.
As someone who moved to Texas, that article is spot on. Natives loves this state, primarily because they don't travel much and don't know any better. If you come here from elsewhere, the place sucks. It really is a sh-t ho-e to live in but great for business. I'm planning my exit by year end, 5 years in this dump has been plenty.
OK CVX Texas is great for business but Texas is second worst for lifestyle
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/14/these-10-states-are-americas-worst-places-to-live-in-2022.html
If you're used to the California lifestyle and all that entails, you'll stay. If you want any upside to your (oil) career and have many years still to work, you'll be on your way to Houston. This scenario has played itself out many times in the oil industry, think Ponca City, Denver, New Orleans, Lafayette, Tulsa, OK City, Los Angeles, Dallas, Casper, Anchorage, etc. (let's not forget Moon Township as well). All cities where the industry once flourished, then abandoned.