Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Is HW trying to stop talent loss at all?

My impression is that HW is no longer doing anything to stop talent loss. As long as efforts of the employees are not adequately compensated, the talents will be leaving. Morale is very bad. It's surprising that even more people are not leaving the company...

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Leave before you are outdated. Other companies are using new tech. There are many people who left that you can network with on LinkedIn. Take some time to detox from Honeywell ways.

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Post ID: @5cts+1h3F486e

NO!!

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Post ID: @4vzj+1h3F486e

This is all part of the plan. The great resignation has only accelerated Honeywell's plans to outsource everything to the third world outhouses, aka "low cost geographies". Honeywell is now full speed into becoming a "software industrial company". LOLOL When there are layoffs, Honeywell actually has to pay to get rid of people. In the current exodus, they don't have to pay a dime. After more than a decade, I was hoping to get RIF'ed so that I could get a 10-week paid vacation. No luck. So, I left on my own. It's the best thing I've ever done for my career and my overall health. I know make double what I made at Honeywell and I have a future. And I'm actually valued for my KSA's.

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Post ID: @4xya+1h3F486e

Get your training done and everything will be ok. *roaring laughter

Younger Engr will do what they all do... leave. Older will do what they all do...retire/layoff/leave.
Middle group? ... what middle group?

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Post ID: @4fig+1h3F486e

HW has a long history of selecting inappropriate people for executive positions. Many years ago we had a divisional leader who's prior position was president at Mattel. We thought maybe we will start designing and manufacturing toy APUs, prop& fan engines. He didn't last all that long.

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Post ID: @3rfr+1h3F486e

I have monetarily benefited from talent running away but stress has gone up due to dealing with the less talented/motivated remainers.

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Post ID: @3ajk+1h3F486e

What a joke! If you think they care about talent loss you have much bigger problems then you think. Good luck on the bread line.

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Post ID: @3ryd+1h3F486e

No they don’t care. The cow has almost ran out of milk. When it runs out at all milk. You will be unemployed. Possibly the worst recession since George Bush was in office. Don’t be like an ostrich and have your head stuck up somebody’s a-s.

Start looking before the Konomi crashes and Honeywell with it

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Post ID: @3afh+1h3F486e

Define talent? Honeywell values creative money engineers who can wring every last penny, ruppie, and crown from excellent labor free financial deals. Honeywell does not value anyone who designs, builds, or sells actual products. Those people are not “talent”. They are costs and the best that can be done is for real talent to find a way to replace them in the next cheap labor market.

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Post ID: @2rym+1h3F486e

486e you missed one

  1. the backstabbing manager who has hung around because no one else will take them, and they continue to blame down to stay alive and slide around

Met several at HW

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Post ID: @1mtw+1h3F486e

Absolutely on point responses here. Our team has crumbled to pieces in the last few years, now through attrition the incompetent (those unemployable else where) have been promoted to leadership through solely not leaving, now things are triple bad... gotta get the he-l out :(

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Post ID: @1acz+1h3F486e

Honeywell leaders fall into 3 categories

1/ young people, usually meeting some demographic target, that HON railroaded into a career in management

2/ mediocrities from other professions and industries that get the ‘prestige’ of being a leader that they could never get elsewhere. You can’t help but notice the strange career trajectories some of these people have ie. former school teacher then CIO, former landscaper now working as an Analytics leader, CFO of a furniture store with 50 employees now a head of procurement. I could go on and on. Thought leaders and industry legends they are not

3/ there are a few seasoned competent people in leadership roles

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Post ID: @1mih+1h3F486e

Frankly, there’s not really any talent left for them to lose at this point.

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Post ID: @1izo+1h3F486e

To get new talent they have a few scenarios..

  1. Make the living conditions so nice that leaving is not an option. Perks like free food and laundry etc rather than salary and bonus. This doesn’t work when you aren’t spending time at the office.
  1. Wait for the massive recession to smash the job market and hope that the war machine keeps the aero and oil divisions alive. This is best bet. ( most likely)
  1. Pray that the urban air vehicle revolution happens faster than the electric car revolution. This will be disruptive when it starts and millions of jobs will be created. Aerospace will be cool again for a while. Oil will paradoxically bo-m because those things are power hungry vixen. Safety products will bo-m as massive manufacturing plants are created. There is no existing manufacturing base to transfer for the new jobs needed. It isn’t going to be like electric cars where IC plants switch to electric.
  1. Abandon the legacy product lines to history and invest 5-10B to create or buy new products… to some extend they have done this and the pain being felt by all other divisions is that of starvation and abandonment. I wonder what the morale is like in shiny new buildings like boulder,co?

Did I miss something? Nothing that Honeywell does is going to entice new grads to work on “new tech” invented fifty years ago.

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Post ID: @1zcf+1h3F486e

They will hand out meaningless titles and promotions until the tide changes and they will take it all back and them some.

Remember- Furloughs, wage reductions and title changes? That's coming to a town near you.

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Post ID: @1kmb+1h3F486e

Overheard an HR Manager lamenting ‘no one wants to work here’

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Post ID: @1isd+1h3F486e

They're panicked about it but don't have a clue what to do. Typical.

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