Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Caliber of Younger Employee Base

They may be cheaper but the bolt rarely finds the nut.

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The techs I see coming into construction are borderline comical. In fact most of the people that have come into the department in the past 15 years would be shunned or ridiculed for their lack of motivation and fortitude back in the day. Always looking for the way out of taking responsibility and anything challenging.

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Post ID: @6vyz+1flVGuGm

I don't see the big argument about younger workers. I think the only thing is notice is that they take a whole lot more time off for "mental health", and they have somewhat unrealistic expectations for pay and the ability to move up quickly. I have seen very skilled new folks, but they seem to be hiring the right skill level for most jobs. My issue isn't skill, it's that I've been with the company for 10 yrs, have 3x the education, experience, and a decade of tenure but the company is paying them the same or more in some instances. That's not on them. That's on the Death Star. There have been a slew of diversity hires as well, which I also don't see as bad, but it's near impossible to get a promotion if you aren't a certain ethnicity, g-y, or otherwise in a special group despite being better qualified. Again, this isn't a post about wokeism or some kind of bashing of our friends in these groups. It's just frustrating for everyone involved. It sets everyone up for failure when you place someone into a position they can't handle, particularly management.

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Post ID: @4nlo+1flVGuGm

The bolt often does finds the nut. Unless there are too many underperforming or lazy workers not doing their work.

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Post ID: @2isx+1flVGuGm

College grads with engineering degrees would never, take a job that is more appropriate for a high school or GED grad...not when they can use that education and work in technologies that offers far more opportunities (monetary and professionally). This is true especially now with so many amazing opportunities available for those with such degrees. No way.

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Post ID: @2zyz+1flVGuGm

Any tech coming into the Business Services is being hired as a NTS, Network Technical Specialist. That means that they’re coming into BS as a sort of hybrid employee that can be used to do Central office work, Outside plant work, (locates which totally sucks) or business services installations. Management will use you on any given day where you’re needed. If there’s no business services work, the tech is used to do outside plant work. If you’re on the afternoon shift and there’s no work in the afternoon, they’ll bring the tech in during the day to help. These techs are all over the place on any given day without notice and it’s a union contract violation because they don’t get an advanced notice, but the techs don’t care as long as they’re kept busy.

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Post ID: @2gym+1flVGuGm

A ‘new hire with a Mechanical Engineering degree’….? Working as a field tech…Really? There are tons of jobs in Robotics, Aeronautics, Automotive to name a few. I find those comments highly unlikely. Somebody’s lying.

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Post ID: @2wkm+1flVGuGm

It is awesome to be able to building an airplane that is already taking off the runway. Your hired.

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Post ID: @2reu+1flVGuGm
If we stick with the “building an airplane that is already taking off the runway

Who downvoted this. That was hilarious and probably true

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Post ID: @1uzh+1flVGuGm

New hire on the team, college grad with mechanical engineering degree. Bright kid, she is bored out of her mind of having nothing substantive to do. Management isn't equipped to support young people's career path, not a surprise to most of you.

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Post ID: @1imq+1flVGuGm

Go sit down and yell at some kids for walking on your grass old man.

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Post ID: @1ojr+1flVGuGm

AT&T vets are some of the most unskilled workers I’ve encountered.

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Post ID: @1adv+1flVGuGm

If we stick with the “building an airplane that is already taking off the runway”, each assembly team has 2 boomers standing at outside the bathroom gossiping about what we’re all doing wrong, 3 gen xers welding the wings on backwards, 5 millennials taking “self-care breaks” and a dozen gen z’s (including the director) jammed in the cockpit evaluating project management software and vying for chief of staff promotions. We need to surplus 2 of the gen xers and hire a few more chief of staff gen z’s if we have any hope of success. - Your Friendly Neighborhood Management Consultant who gets paid $1M retainer

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Post ID: @1ffv+1flVGuGm

They say Business Services(a group with generally older/higher seniority dates techs) picked up the “business” gpon/bvoip work because wire techs(generally younger/lower seniority date) couldn’t keep up with the work load & apparently the company can’t keep enough of them employed. Since picking up the work, the Business Services group is blowing the Wire Techs out of the water when it comes to HPC & DE on the same job types. So yeah, younger doesn’t always mean better or faster. BTW wire techs, these Business Services techs are getting paid a whole lot more than you to do your work, may want to look into that.

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Post ID: @1nxz+1flVGuGm

Younger workers have no illusions of lifetime employment with a single employer. They know that modern business has no loyalty toward its workers. As a result, younger workers have no loyalty or long term commitments to their current employer.

As soon as a better opportunity comes along, these younger workers will be jumping ship. This place is only a stepping stone.

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Post ID: @yxv+1flVGuGm

Why do you care? Really, why? Management doesn’t care. High performer low performer. Doesn’t really matter.

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Post ID: @vpx+1flVGuGm

Ok ,Boomer

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Post ID: @ika+1flVGuGm

Sounds like a bitter old guy threatened by younger talent.

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Post ID: @tcf+1flVGuGm

There are more newer employees because the legacy work force is aging. That does not mean they are less intelligent, it simply means some of the old timers have more experience and are, therefore, more skilled and proficient at the present time. Give them time, they'll catch up and outrun you.
The product line has been streamlined for a multitude of reasons, including overlapping, redundancy, obsolence and cost factors.
It's a bit insulting to infer that newer employees lack the competency to do their jobs well, early in their career. Don't discount them... Remember: Everyone needs time to learn, grow, adapt and enjoy the same fruits of their labor just like you. And remember also T is not the telephone company many of you joined 30-20 years ago.....

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Post ID: @pob+1flVGuGm

Truth

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Post ID: @vpz+1flVGuGm

True!
But that’s why the products are simplified, systems simplified and more online interaction with customers. Once they finish with the current changes, they can have low pay/low skill workers perform most of the business tasks.
Anyone who believes all the rhetoric about the positive changes are for the employees is very naive- it’s about margins and only margins.

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