Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Honeywell stopped seeing any value in its employees

Once upon a time, Honeywell realized the true worth of its employees and always made sure to meet the industry standard for adequate pay (at the minimum) for the skills being offered. Now, the company can't wait to get rid of the employees who are the most experienced and knowledgeable, and our competition is more than happy to scoop them up. It's ridiculous how much things have changed in the last decade.

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Post ID: @OP+1evp79UP

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It's always the HR Gestapo who say that Engineers are "interchangeable" and that it's "no big deal" when a key contributor has had enough and gives notice.
From my aviation experience of over 35+ years, when an HR shill says, "Employees are a dime a dozen," he's looking in a mirror.
HR should be an outsourced function (U.S.A. based), outside the reach of the Business Leaders, even Corporate, and answerable only to the Board of Directors and Legal.

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Post ID: @2cke+1evp79UP

@qzl+1evp79UP

What school of fools did you crawl out from under? Experienced engineers know what works and more importantly, what does not work. New blood without guidance from experienced mentors in this biz is a failure before it starts. Legacy products that are easy to produce = cash cow. The only way to innovate is for Honeywell to stop spending $2.5 Billion each year on stock buybacks and start funding R&D. Designs aren't ready for production until the first prototypes are made... by production. Come back and post again when you actually know what you're talking about. Or better yet, if you don't believe me, go start your own company and fail miserably.

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Post ID: @1ngq+1evp79UP

Keep living in the past is not healthy, moving on to a greener pasture . HW is going to get worse so don’t expect a better thing from HW

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Post ID: @1jal+1evp79UP

It is as simple as :Honeywell does not care about employees. Expensive health care, lack of even a decent raises, ludicrous emoyee match yearly ( and lose any match if not an emplyee by Dec XX in the year), 9 Block rating (just stupid), etc. There is no defense for how they treat people.

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Post ID: @1dzw+1evp79UP

Wake up wokers.

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Post ID: @1slg+1evp79UP

It started when Allied now called Honeywell hired Mckinsey.
That was the germ for many of the stupid ideas dating back to the apple reorg.

The relationships between Mckinsey and major companies is about to blow up.
Former Mckinsey employees like Que will become a liability soon enough.

"It has come to my attention that McKinsey & Company appears to have lied to me and my staff on multiple occasions regarding McKinsey's relationship with the Chinese Communist Party and the Chinese government," Rubio wrote in a December 16 letter to Bob Sternfels, McKinsey's global management partner, in San Francisco
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Post ID: @1xno+1evp79UP

Experienced engineers are great at doing similar things to what they have done.
The shift to new grads is foresight that legacy product lines ... for aero.. engines, fms, even inertial nav, are being disrupted into history. New product lines needed.
In that world you only need a few experienced people to salt the groups of energetic young workers.
Honeywell's big mistake is that they didnt take footprint reduction far enough. They still have too many products and too many locations to maximize engineering. Production is too far from engineering for the maturity of product designs turned over.
They need to collapse to no more than one design site in each region for each major business group. Ie.. one aero location in phoenix. Production should colocate with engineering... or they should completely divest production and force engineering to deliver designs ready for production.

If the product mix doesnt allow that then you probably should think about spin offs because your mix is too diverse.

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Post ID: @qzl+1evp79UP

@lny+1evp79UP So very true they are woke. Manager emails now have pronouns in them How come and dont make sense keep it on other side of the fence????

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Post ID: @mkr+1evp79UP

@tuc+1evp79UP

"Fresh grads" are not suitable to replace engineers with 10, 20, or 30 yearss of experience. It has never been that way, isn't now, and never will be that way, regardless of "quality candidates". The decision to sink Honeywell is coming straight from DA.

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Post ID: @xxr+1evp79UP

HR is just like you. Just people doing their jobs. They have no say or even input on policy.
They are following directions that flow down from the top.

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Post ID: @akh+1evp79UP

HR will not wake-up. They are woke.

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Post ID: @lny+1evp79UP

It is all about headcount and average salaries. The company views engineers as interchangeable and they are swapping out experienced engineers for fresh grads. That alone would be bad enough even if they were attracting quality candidates, but the quality is dropping as the reputation of the company sinks. Wake up HR, you are ki----g us.

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