A few months after WFH started i was perusing indeed and found a job not unlike my own i could do almost entirely remotely. i figured whatever and have been drawing both paychecks. the 2nd job doesnt interfere with my Chevron work but in fairness i have spent 10 years at Chevron not really doing much except acting busy around PMP time.
Will i get in trouble with San Ramon HR? I dont have LinkedIn or social media so i have no idea how they would find out.
I'm in IT. Was in the network group for a while. We have the ABILITY to monitor your usage, but generally don't unless you're already suspected of something, in which case we capture more data as requested (usually by Law or HR or as part of a law enforcement investigation). It's much more common for contractors as well - particularly to see hours spent actually logged in.
otherwise, all of the data we capture - if it's even working correctly - is just dumped somewhere and we have too much of it and not enough people who know WTF to do with it.
Email monitoring is completely separate and managed by the Exchange team. Last I heard they were really only checking for cyber threats or exfiltration of data. But that's been a few years ago now.
If you have a second job, you'd have a second computer for that job and Chevron has no idea what you're doing on that one. We can't monitor your entire home network...
"I can assure you there is no monitoring of online activity"
then why dear middle manager is there monitoring of email to find out all kinds of activity. Se-ual harrasement emails being the most obvious example
You are very naive, of course Chevron monitors, have you read the TOS when you log on? it's all in there. Also most companies know employees who take many sick days have more than average chance they will leave. That is well known,
Chevron is one of the most detail oriented (i.e.: an-l retentive) data driven companies around. ALL about control and process.
As a middle manager, I can assure you there is no monitoring of online activity. You are welcome to work at your desk, thinking with your eyes shut, without turning on your computer all day, as long as you deliver on your PMP by year end.
As sys admin I have access to all the team's logon and logoff times , boy was that revealing about who did the most actual work. I also could see every keystroke too. The most interesting thing though was being able to see those who didn't logon on a particular day or were doing very little on the computer at all. lol
Just make sure you are logging into the company network every work day and up and down load enough and sufficient data and simulate a 9 hour work day. The company has plenty of analytics on all our activites (or lack thereof) on the CVX network. Food for thought eh, They can get reports showing outliers and then really start look into you. I imagine your supervisor has data on all their direct reports. logon and off times, bandwidth use, programs accessed and so on at a minimum.
69% of full-time remote employees say they have a second job, new survey shows. It’s another reason for CEOs to be paranoid about WFH.
Second jobs are widespread, a survey suggests.
@1oml, Next time, just post the link, instead of copying and pasting the entire article. Quit being such a mo-ron.
With work so slow during the last couple years, I would rather see my staff hustling two jobs and getting double pay than just sitting around doing 3 hours a day Chevron work.
We already know who you are. Look forward to PMP time sunshine.....
Interesting question. I'd have a separate bank account. I'd not use my personal email for communicating this the 2nd company. I'd have 2 cell phones. I'd probably use a separate dedicated computer for this. I believe that if you have solid firewall, and you are meeting the expectations of your CVX supervisor then none of this is CVX's business. And yeah, I'd never talk about it. I would probably leave Chevron however, if you are dragged back to the office.
Ha, you think you were the only one! They know and will let it slide! Ha ha ha
If you haven't been doing much they need to know that and they need to replace you with someone who provides value to the company or no one, if you're not required. That's why WFH will not be forever as another poster pointed out.
Fly under the radar, less said the better.
Well now you know why they want us back in the office.
Double and triple jobbing is very common these days. No harm, no foul.
"They were bored. Or worried about layoffs. Or tired of working hard for a meager raise every year. They got another job offer.
Now they have a secret.
A small, dedicated group of white-collar workers, in industries from tech to banking to insurance, say they have found a way to double their pay: Work two full-time remote jobs, don’t tell anyone and, for the most part, don’t do too much work, either.
Alone in their home offices, they toggle between two laptops. They play “Tetris” with their calendars, trying to dodge endless meetings. Sometimes they log on to two meetings at once. They use paid time off—in some cases, unlimited—to juggle the occasional big project or ramp up at a new gig. Many say they don’t work more than 40 hours a week for both jobs combined. They don’t apologize for taking advantage of a system they feel has taken advantage of them.
“It’s two jobs for one,” says a 29-year-old software engineer who has been working simultaneously for a media company and an events company since June. He estimates he was logging three to 10 hours of actual work a week back when he held down one job. “The rest of it is just attending meetings and pretending to look busy.”
He was emboldened by a new website called Overemployed. Started by two tech workers this spring, it aims to rally workers around the concept of stealthily holding multiple jobs, framing it as a way to wrest back control after decades of stalled wages for some and a pandemic that led to unpredictable layoffs.
Gig work and outsourcing have been on the rise for years. Inflation is now ticking up, chipping away at spending power. Some employees in white-collar fields wonder why they should bother spending time building a career.
“The harder that you work, it seems like the less you get,” one of the workers with two jobs says. “People depend on you more. My paycheck is the same.”
Overemployed says it has a solution.
“There’s no implied lifetime employment anymore, not even at IBM, ” writes one of the website’s co-founders, a 38-year-old who works for two tech companies in the San Francisco Bay Area. The site serves up tips on setting low expectations with bosses, staying visible at meetings and keeping LinkedIn profiles free of red flags. (A “social-media cleanse” is a solid excuse for an outdated LinkedIn profile, it says.) In a chat on the messaging platform Discord, people from around the world swap advice about employment checks and downtime at various brand-name companies.
“Avoid the slippery ladder in your career,” one Overemployed post says. “Take the side door instead.”
This article is based on conversations with a half-dozen workers who have secretly worked multiple full-time jobs, as employees and contractors, during the pandemic. The workers spoke anonymously for fear of being fired or not being able to pull off the arrangement again. The approach doesn’t violate federal or state laws, according to employment lawyers, but it could represent a breach of contract or raise issues around confidentiality. And it could certainly result in an employee’s termination.
The Wall Street Journal verified the workers’ accounts by examining offer letters, employment contracts, concurrent pay stubs and corporate emails. Most of them say they are on track to earn a total of $200,000 to nearly $600,000 a year, including bonuses and stock. They have paid off chunks of student-loan debt, plumped their kids’ college-savings accounts and bought everything from an engagement ring to a sports car with the extra cash.
The money is incredible, the 29-year-old software engineer says. So is the stress: “I’ll wake up in the morning and I’m like, ‘Oh, this is the day I’m gonna get found out.’ ”
A job search takes a left turn
The Overemployed co-founder’s journey to two jobs started with a career slump. Passed over last year for a promotion he thought was in the bag, he saw half his team get promoted instead. Next came layoffs. He started looking for another job, assuming his number would soon be up.
Upon receiving an offer from a tech company less than 10 miles down the road, he figured he would quit his current job. Then it occurred to him: What if he didn’t?
“When push comes to shove, you’re going to become a number,” he says. He launched the website early this spring, five months after starting his second job, with the aim of alerting other workers to the possibility of diversifying their sources of income and benefits. “They say it’s a free market. I’m going to go ahead and get mine too.”
“‘Am I trying to be, like, a five-star employee? Not really. I’m just trying to do the job I need to not get fired.’”
The pandemic has given us new opportunities to shirk and fib. No matter how many check-ins they load on someone’s calendar, bosses can’t keep tabs on remote workers like they did when they sat one desk over.
Employees feel the freedom. The change is logistical—a worker can head to the beach this afternoon, and no one has to know—as well as emotional. After months away from the office, where workers forged deeper relationships with colleagues and identified more with their companies, many feel increasingly disconnected from their employers, says Vanessa Burbano, a management professor at Columbia Business School who has studied employee misconduct.
To be sure, many employees have filled their days at home with more work, feeling pressure to prove themselves. But others have taken their foot off the pedal.
The tech worker started declining calendar invitations for meetings. Nothing happened.
“The beauty of working remotely is you actually have a choice,” he says. The boss at his first company, he says, was distracted by managing up. The worker started handing off responsibilities to an eager new colleague. He took advantage of the company’s unlimited PTO policy with a month off, citing Covid-19 burnout. By now he has perfected the art of diplomatically declining colleague requests. (Sorry, not enough bandwidth, he tells them.) If a complex project gets bogged down by co-workers, he doesn’t try to get things back on track; delays can make it easier for him to juggle his multiple professional identities."
There’s no guarantees about anything, but if you keep your side gig private and to yourself, you should be fine. Put your spouse out in front of the business, don’t publicize your name in advertising, announcements, licensing or incorporation documents. If the company ever asks you about, everything points to the spouse as owner and operator.
You should definitely post about it like that d-mba$$ former Exxon employee who left Exxon recently, did an interview with his name attached where he simultaneously sh!t on Exxon and talked about the data science company he started while working for Exxon…..only to watch Exxon lawyers turn around and seize his company, which prompted him to show up back on the Exxon campus and create a scene.
if you are found out you will get in trouble, like the other poster said keep it yourself.
Keep your business to yourself. If they do find out, you will certainly be fired. Definite and clear grounds for termination. Mum is the word.