Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Hearing significant amount of employees at Aero Olathe Cedar Creek aren’t going to take the vaccine

Any comments to add to this story?
If too many techs leave, backlog will not be improving.
Priority customers will be slower repairs based on what groups in R&O leave.
Not to mention all the OEM and R&O that were already scheduled to retire at the year end.
Many open job req’s that are not being filled either due to unavailability of qualified candidates or bad reputation of Honeywell on the streets.
Also people leaving the ship to go to work at FMT in Missouri .
A perfect storm is brewing. I wonder how the ship will sail in rough waters ahead ?

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this entire webpage is proof that we are the origin story for Idiocracy.

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Post ID: @3ipq+1duGOrNt

Latest under reported numbers until this Friday:
CDC VAE.RS COVID Vaccine Adve.rse Even.t Reports
818,000 Reports Through October 15, 2021
17,000 Reported De. at.hs

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Post ID: @2qtb+1duGOrNt

such little grasp of basic data -
dear me if there are many antivaxxer muppets
in HW then the company has real problems.

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Post ID: @2pwr+1duGOrNt

70% breakthroughs! As mentioned in several posts below I'm sure glad that the traditional vaccines most everyone takes as a child actually work unlike the spike protein jabs!!

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Post ID: @2ckh+1duGOrNt

The data below is actually 1.5 vaccinated and 11.0 unvaccinated per 100,000. Formatting seems to get mangled when posted.

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Post ID: @2jmb+1duGOrNt

The news article does not take into account the percentage of vacced vs unvacced in the population. It’s really quite sad what this kind of manipulation of statistics is doing to people that are unwilling or unable to review and understand the actual data for themselves.

The UKHSA data actually shows the death rate/ 100,000 for a 55yr old:

  1. 5 for double vacced
    and 11.0 for unvacced

I’ll take my chances with the jab.

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Post ID: @2mao+1duGOrNt

@2rzd+1duGOrNt, if the vax works so well why do I have to take it so that yours will work?

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Post ID: @2pof+1duGOrNt

looks to be another site for muppets -
the data they link to shows the
death rate/ 100,000 for a 55yr old:

  1. 5 for double vacced

and 11.0 for unvacced

incredible how thick some antivaxxer folk are

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Post ID: @2rzd+1duGOrNt

In September Honeywell Aero sent out a list of COVID vaccination rates for sites with at least 70% or higher. The list showed Minneapolis site (MN-17) with 100% vax rate. That really surprised people at Minneapolis. The following week leadership sent out another email that admited the error, but sent to Minneapolis site only. In their words: "Please note the current percentage of the eligible population that certified at Minneapolis is 65%. We apologize for the confusion this may have caused."
Only 65% vax rate, a huge difference to 100% that was reported initially.
Cooking the numbers is probably one of the greatest skill sets for management.

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Post ID: @2gpp+1duGOrNt

CDC approves fourth booster shot…

Get ready to roll up both those sleeves and drop your drawers in order to be considered "fully" jabbed (for now)! Merry Vaxx-mas!

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/clinical-considerations/covid-19-vaccines-us.html#considerations-covid19-vax-booster

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Post ID: @1dmx+1duGOrNt

COVID-1984 Layoff Mandates

CNBC: Business groups ask White House to delay Biden Covid vaccine mandate

"The American Trucking Associations warned the administration last week that many drivers will likely quit rather than get vaccinated, further disrupting the national supply chain at time when the industry is already short 80,000 drivers."

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/25/businesses-ask-white-house-to-delay-biden-covid-vaccine-mandate-until-after-holidays.html

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Post ID: @1iyh+1duGOrNt

If some folks are leaving Aero Olathe and going to FM&T KC, that's a net win for Honeywell.
The margin on billable hours at the Kansas City National Security Campus is far greater that any Aero site.

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Post ID: @1ahi+1duGOrNt

It's already starting. Covid adverse effects and mandate nursing shortages are swamping ERs.

NPR: "ERs are now swamped with seriously ill patients — but many don't even have COVID"

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/10/26/1046432435/ers-are-now-swamped-with-seriously-ill-patients-but-most-dont-even-have-covid

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Post ID: @1fic+1duGOrNt

@1psq+1duGOrNt, I hope your site leader at least gets his Jelly of the Month" club as a bonus. Not quite a swimming pool, but....

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Post ID: @1qij+1duGOrNt

I bet the site leader is worried about lower output which equals lower bonus

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Post ID: @1psq+1duGOrNt

Out of the original 157 on the list there are still just over 100 who are uncontaminated. That is why they are still promoting free jabs this week. Still hemorrhaging about 6 people a week. If most of the remaining aren't granted exemptions Cedar Creek will grind to a halt. Also for the eventual OSHA ruling, which applies only to companies with over 100 employees, allows for a testing option. Of course both the OSHA and executive orders will likely be overturned in the next 60 days.

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Post ID: @1cgm+1duGOrNt

almost everything I've ever read on this site has been wildly exaggerated. do I think some % will refuse? absolutely. do I think it will "cripple" HW? no.

what people need to remember is OSHA is still planning to make it a requirement, and if they do, all these people refusing will eventually be unemployable, just as nurses and other medical professionals who refused are now finding.

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Post ID: @1zdd+1duGOrNt

Industry asked for this in the first place so it is a sure bet if they ask for time they will get it.
None of this originated with government.

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Post ID: @1far+1duGOrNt

Likely just a few old timers who were about to retire anyway I would imagine.

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Post ID: @1nmf+1duGOrNt

40% of course there are -
poor poppet - time for your big boy pants

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Post ID: @1jcw+1duGOrNt

HR scrolling through the posts and pi----g their pants. The number is closer to 40% but wont admit it. Some will cave and take it. Others will leave. The rest are lawyering up and waiting for Dec 8 to file lawsuits.

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Post ID: @1vpk+1duGOrNt

I'm hearing these clowns spout a load of nonsense -
a couple will rise up from their moms basements and errr
do nothing.
Normal folk sensible folk will get the jab or leave if they want to express their freedom of choice.
hard of understanding clowns will keep spinning rubbish

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Post ID: @1gpi+1duGOrNt

10 maybe

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Post ID: @1svh+1duGOrNt

All it would take if 30-40 people were gone and they were techs.
Not enough techs to cover that gap.

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Post ID: @1kqc+1duGOrNt

Imagine if the traditional Polio vaccine allowed you contract, spread, create new variants, and d.ie of Polio like the 2x, 3x, 4x mRNA breakthrough jabs do for Covid!

Dare we mention the tens of thousands of de.a.ths and hundreds of thousands of severe and crippling adverse reactions that are worse than the combined total of all vaccines over the past 30 years?!

Furthermore, why do the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that did not protect the protected in the first place?

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Post ID: @1pxb+1duGOrNt

1%? I don't even know 100 people here in Tempe and I can name 10 that are not complying. Once Hon realizes how bad it's going to hurt their Q4 they'll either have to extend the deadline or reverse this policy. Or we leave and the poor suckers that are left here just have to work even harder to do our jobs. Hope they like "mandated" overtime to go along with those jabs. Good luck training my replacement. I'll be happy to move on.

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Post ID: @1zhp+1duGOrNt

Now vaccinated have to take a Covid test next month for air travel.
That kinda blows up the federal mandate to be vaccinated if now the vaccinated have to take a Covid-19 test.

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Post ID: @1rab+1duGOrNt

@brs+1duGOrNt I’m @bib above and faaaar from HR. But no idea what the real #s are. What are they?

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Post ID: @cpi+1duGOrNt

Last two comments sounds like HR trolls trying to downplay the situation.

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Post ID: @brs+1duGOrNt

Rumors outweigh reality. I am hearing 1 percent from HR estimates. Much lower than doom and apocalypse the news is selling.

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Post ID: @ugg+1duGOrNt

Define “significant number”?

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