The gov't contractor mandate is discussed much less frequently but it's the one that affects Honeywell the most. This article discusses the court challenge being lead by several states including FL and AZ. I agree with the article that it is not an easy win, it probably matters about the quality of the lawyers and luck of which judge(s) hear the case.
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/why-contractor-vaccine-mandate-is-tough-to-challenge-in-court
@2iwz+1dTBUZKm: $12B divided by 300 million people (I know the hardcore knuckleheads like you won't get vaccinated) works out to $40 per person. Double, triple or quintuple that and it is still a bargain compared to a covid hospital stay approaching $100K or more. Math not your strong suit? Logic sure the he-l isn't.
@2iwz+1dTBUZKm: OK Einstein. You want to complain about the cost of a vaccine? Spread out of hundreds of millions of doses given to hundreds of millions of people, what does that work out to on a per person basis? Not a whole lot considering the lives saved.
Now riddle me this. What does it cost to hospitalize an unvaccinated fool for a month or more? That cost is astronomical. The anti-vaxxers are the ones slamming our government with the health care costs of covid, not the unvaccinated. Care to try again?
@2iwz+1dTBUZKm: "Whose money is it? is it free, or you eventually pay for every shots shipped out of vax maker's door whether you take the jab or not?"
So you are complaining that your tax dollars (or deficit spending) is paying for the vaccine, yet your anti-vaxx stance requires you to refuse the vaccine?
Who is the dummy here? You, and your low IQ anti-vaxx buddies. The remedy is at hand and you refuse to partake. You've been had. You've bought into the anti-vaxx bullshjt hook-line-and-sinker. Well done, fool.
About the CDC “database” that some think reported so many adverse vaccine events ....
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-vaers-faers-idUSL2N2OE1ZA
@1moe+1dTBUZKm
You claimed that you're a smart engineer but you emphasized "vaccines are free" ?
Luckily there are much smarter engineers to save HON from !diots like you.
The fed make 12 billion dollars deals with vax makers for supplying vaccines thru 2022. Whose money is it? is it free, or you eventually pay for every shots shipped out of vax maker's door whether you take the jab or not?
Interesting! According to CDC data more people di.ed from Covid jabs in 2021 than from all g-n-related homicides in latest dataset from 2019. Looks like we are going to have to outlaw Covid Jabs, especially since they aren't enumerated in the Constitution...
The VAERS is just a repository for personal adverse vaccine reactions with no proven correlation to the vaccine. There is no doubt some of the cases are true reactions of the vaccine. There is also no doubt that there is no correlation in many of the cases. There is not even confirmation all of these reactions even occurred. No doubt some were made up by those who benefit from pushing anti vaxx cr-p.
Yes, I know some will claim that the accounts are all true because of some disclaimer on the site that it is illegal to submit false data. But, as the 2A folks always tell us - law breakers don’t follow laws so you certainly can’t assume that disclaimer means no one is submitting false data.
We definitely need better science education in this country. Not knowing the difference between data, evidence, corrrelation, and causation - along with not having an understanding of basic statistics - is what allows so many to be duped by those manipulating the facts to push their self serving anti vaxx agenda. They certainly do not care if you or your loved ones die.
Not counting the tens of thousands of double-jabbed "breakthrough" Covid de@ths, the below are just from the Covid jabs alone, according to government databases:
8 Prominent Anti-Vaxxers Who Died Of COVID-19
https://methodshop.com/anti-vaxxers-who-died-of-covid/
Anti-Vaccine Doctor Who Called Mask Wearing 'Dangerous' Dies of COVID-19
https://www.newsweek.com/anti-vaccine-doctor-who-called-mask-wearing-dangerous-dies-covid-19-1648385
Anti-Vaxxer Nurse Who Claimed Vaccine Ki--s People Dies Of COVID-19
https://www.ibtimes.com/anti-vaxxer-nurse-who-claimed-vaccine-ki--s-people-dies-covid-19-3331658
1vod+1dTBUZKm
You are an example of why Honeywell is considered second rate in the engine business. You can't even review macro statistics to drive to conclusions. You focus on a 1 off situation and cite an example that failed to provide evidence of how his death was actually linked to the vaccine. You remind me of the id--t project engineer that tried to claim that the physics of Honeywell engines are different because he didn't want to admit they spent a month and a million dollars collecting bad data.
@1idh -- you only say that because, as usual, you can not refute it. All you can do is resort to childish deflection and projection. Alinksy & Gramsci will not save you from your own reprobate actions.
@1hlu+1dTBUZKm: You win the prize for the most rabidly insane anti-vaxx post ever. Congratulations, fool.
The COVIDian 4th Rei.ch is here.
FACT: 'The Unvaccinated Are the New Je.ws' - Don't Let the Left Tell You Otherwise
https://rairfoundation.com/fact-the-unvaccinated-are-the-new-jews-dont-let-the-left-tell-you-otherwise-video/
@1dlc Typical lib thinking. If it costs me nothing, it's free. No, the government has spent many billions of OUR dollars on the development, testing, procurement and delivery of the vaccine. I'm not arguing if you should or should not get it, if it works or not or if it is safe or not. Just pointing out that only an fool would think it's free.
@1dlc "Um, the vaccine is free. It costs you nothing. "
The cost seems pretty high for this man and his family. One more tragic example to add to the many hundreds of thousands.
https://www.habingfamily.com/obituary/michael-mike-granata
Safe and effective... right? Just maybe not for everyone.
@qgx+1dTBUZKm: "At some point, you're going to have to bear witness to what you believe. And it's going to cost you something."
Um, the vaccine is free. It costs you nothing.
Your ignorant refusal to get vaccinated could cost you your job and your life. But do die for your oh so noble cause, anti-vaxxers. Stupidity on such a grand scale from otherwise rational people is just astonishing. Where's my popcorn?
The admin has no intention of enforcing any mandate. They are using it to further advance the division in the country.
They will get in front of a camera and tout that it is for the working people. (It's not, it's for big business)
And show some poster that has vaccination rates going up and up. (They're not, but the government keeps buying more and giving it to 3rd world countries)
And tell you that they can spend a gazillion dollars and it won't cost the taxpayers a penny. (It will cost people on all income levels plenty)
How can we the people be stupid enough to allow this.
At some point, you're going to have to bear witness to what you believe. And it's going to cost you something.
Or the over reaching administration never intends to enforce a mandate that will crush the democratic election chances for years. Much easier to take a stand and let the courts and states spend energy attacking a fake.
Meanwhile they get their spending bill done.
Republicans are stupid and gullible.