Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

It seems like there is respect from most managers to union folks but not the other way around. Sad, really. Yes you have to crawl through attics and work in the rain, blah, blah,blah. Maybe you should have gone to college.

Not enough managers leaving.
Pink slips for you next year

Yes, yes we are! We earned it the hard way and damn proud of it!

ATT Managers do not get enough credit for basically handling a grown up day care.

To quote John Houseman “We make money the old fashioned way, we earn it.” OP eat tofu and management bu-t.

Our benefits are sh-t and we haven’t gotten a raise higher that the increase in premiums plus inflation in the past 12 years

They do jobs that most others don’t want to do. No need to throw shade.

Nope…but working for the phone company in any capacity is a close second to being a government employee.

How many times have you been 25 feet in the air with a -40 wind chill?
In a muddy pit in a driving rain fixing a cut cable?
In a filthy man ho-e repairing a wet splice?
Hooked a pole 50 feet over a railroad crossing in a 30 MPH wind.
Sliced your hands open on a cable shield?
At a customers house that stinks like cat p-e and if full of roaches?
Trying not to step on the dog sh-t the customer piles up around the ped.
Carried your ladder through 3 feet of snow 1/4 mile to the cable in the woods?
Cold, hot...and not allowed to run the truck to warm up or cool down?
Mice filled peds, snakes. Coons, possums. Rats, roaches.
You've never done any of that. You wouldn't be so jealous.
OP...what do you do here?
Hope they turn the heat up and no one steals your tofu out of the breakroom fridge.
We don't get paid for what we do, we get paid for what we know how to do.
Man up and try it.

I’ll say it’s a good club to be in , when you worked for Windstream/CTL for 40% less … They hate us cus they an-s.

Definite yes! They are also full of sh!t.

troll much?

"Are AT&T union employees the more entitled employees on the planet?"

Absolutely not! The most entitled "employees" are those that are Federal, State and Municipal employees. The Stink did not steal their pension. They get COLA increases. They get full healthcare.

Of course the worthless Politicians get the primo deals, but you asked about employees.

They hold the g-ns to every taxpayer's head.

Everyone else can be screwed over endlessly by the likes of the Stink!

Working in retail during a pandemic, making the same amount money for the last 10 years, take that back a 50 cents raise per year less than inflation. Being Sworn , threatened by customers. I think I’m entitled a safe environment and job security for working my tail off

Yes, and just think, Stankey makes more in a day than most of these union employees make in a year! Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I'm hourly and a 40 yr tech.
It's not my job to find myself work.
I didn't drive most of our customers away.
I can either go home unpaid, or sit in the garage/truck and get almost 40 bucks an hour.
I'm here for ME...and it's paid off very well since 1981
OP sounds jealous.

Been surplused and forced to move 5 times in the past 15 years. Although I have a Bachelor’s and Masters degree from major universities(not the bogus online ones from non-accredited schools) and a Project Management certification, I was skipped over for various management jobs in my field without getting a single interview only to find out that all of these positions were filled by people that were hunting/golfing buddies of the loca area manager. I’m currently living out of a suitcase again because the last surplus forced me to leave my home state to retain my job. Yeah, I really feel entitled. OP can take his entitlement and shove it up his a$$.

I agree with dhw+1dSFg7p6 .

I actually started as a premises tech in 2010, which was just before it went union. It took a year and a half for the first contract to get completed. Believe me if not for the union no one would stay in that job more than 6 months. The company took advantage of the economy at that time. They started everyone very low - I had to accept a starting pay of $9/hour because there were no good jobs out there. Also we worked until the jobs were complete, which meant my average day was 7 am to 8 pm. Once the contract was completed it made a world of difference. I don't love everything about the union, but at least for this company it is definitely needed.

What upsets union and management is working 20 years with a promise and then taking those benefits away. Some craft take advantage but nobody starts out being greedy. Abuse changes your outlook. I'm management L1. Some management stay for the ego power trip over anyone below. The result is the lower levels (craft and management) get tired and look for less stress. Working from home allows laundry, child care, home meals, .... Craft using on site computers have every keystroke recorded, every call recorded, drivers are tracked every second on where they are and how long was lunch. Treat people like that and stress results. Which came first? A system to watch a few that punishes all?

The cute part is when you see the millionaires with their ray bans and lake houses picket on the street for “better and fair wages and benefits”.
Standing there laughing it up hoping the general public sympathizes with them like they are warehouse or grocery workers barely making ends meet…

Let’s stop the union vs management fighting. As a management employee, I know a ton of entitled fellow managers. I have a lot of respect for union employees. Never had that option .

WOW!!! Try decaf folks, ge-z…… I have been on both sides of this deal. The most rewarding job I ever had in my 33 years was where I started, being a Telephone Man. I still think about the good ol days when working your a-s off and getting a nice check and benefits made you look forward to coming to work. Sadly that ship has sailed, this place has become toxic and now we attack each other, and for no good reason, really. I’m L2 manager now and yes, upset that I too have had benefits that I assumed would be there for life. ripped away. Inept leadership has let us all down to be sure. I respect my union brothers and always will, I also don’t expect them to understand this side of the fence, it’s just different, but assuming all managers are a POS isn’t fair either. Walk a mile in my shoes to understand, I already walked that mile in yours. Good luck to you no matter where you are.

I work in the Telegraph division and we are sitting fine.
We don't have a single union member in our group.
We are about making the company strong.
Telegraphy - the final T.
That's our motto.

I thought OP was a bit overboard but then I read some of your comments realized they are probably right.

Oh my.

What's the matter Scooter?

Did you happen to notice a Field guy sitting in his truck for 15 minutes while you "worked from home" from Starbucks?

Let's level here bucko - heck yes we work the system - don't you? You are an iddiot if you work for a soul-suckking corporation and don't.

But we also pull up our cojones and crawl through 130 degree attics, we wiggle under your leaking septic mobile home, we gaff poles and trees, we work in the heat, the cold, the wind, the rain, and the aftermath of storms while you Zoom in from your living room and post witty motivational sayings on Workplace.

We meet every form of bizarre human on this planet whenever we knock on a strangers door. Anybody and everybody with a credit rating can get our services - and anything and everything accepts that offer. Then we, the Union people, have to go through that door into bizarro land and pretend we are okay with what we encounter.

You gripe about Overtime - perhaps you don't realize that the cr---y Salesforce software suite used by Dispatch has no idea where we are and when we are between jobs. This translates to us sitting idle behind some grocery store for 2, 3 - heck up to 5 hours a day waiting for the next job to be assigned us. We call the Supes, we text the Dispatchers and still, we sit and wait and yeah, we collect our 32 bucks an hour and then when AI finally figures it out - we finally get the six hour old job twenty minutes before quitting time, but we roll anyway, because why the heck not - and "oh no" - we go into overtime! The horror!

Health Care - don't even deign to go there. This "self-funded" cr----a of health care is the singularly most costly and restrictive plan I have encountered in 30 years of health plans.

And finally, as for worthless - you can create the most mind-blowing device in the history of the world - but if there is no one to build it, to sell it, to install it and to keep it working - then all you have an empty scrapbook of faded dreams. It takes more than just you princess, to make the world go round. And yes aholle - I get paid for my time and labor just like you.

What a stupid post OP. The union didn't choose AT&T's disastrous course over the past 2 decades, management did. Specifically, Randall Stephenson ruined this company with his incompetent management and little child in a candy story acquisition spree. Now Stanky, also less than up to the task of running this company, gets to work with the smoldering ruins Randall left behind.

The problem with the company is mismanagement. There's Time Warner, Direct TV fiascos, the payment to T-Mobil on a failed merger. While Verizon was dumping off copper assets to 3rd party LECs whenever they could, AT&T is still stuck with a lot of regulated copper.

In the end, everything right or wrong can be credited or blamed on the Board of Directors, since they select the management of this company.

AT&T shouldn't be compared to FANG stocks. Verizon, T-Mobile, Frontier and Century Link is more like it.

Lots more leaving next 3 weeks including myself. Be careful what you wish for is the name of the game

I dont think everybody feels as you suggest. I believe some people feel slighted as they are older and have been with the company a long time and stayed assuming they worked for and would have the benefits they expected. I do not think others including myself can truly understand this or how they are feeling as we have not worked for the company for 30 plus years. Now in their later 50's they may not be able to retire as expected if they have wife, kids etc. and will now have to wait until they turn 65 and can get Medicare. There is also age discrimination and when 50 or older opportunities for jobs are scarce. Also, other benefits being slashed etc. Unless we have walked in their shoes we can not fully understand what they are experiencing and feeling and or how it effects their livelihood.

So what happened? Did a union guy sleep with your wife?

Watch and see how the new media company soars with profits and share price growth once that hang nail is removed....

LOL.
I think the real problem is way too many managers. First level and above. It's like the government.... you could do it with about 20% of current staffing levels