Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

L2's breed the culture we see rampant in EMIT. It's a significant part of the problem.

There is an “overall” EM component to what’s going on, but also there’s a lot of “EMIT specific” reasons why people are jumping ship as well.

@2lqq+1dI6cyP9 that’s just it… this company is full of “not my job/not my place”, even at the executive ranks. Now we’re in a catch-22 because the rank and file can leave for better opportunities, while those in senior positions often can’t.

2gej+1dI6cyP9 see that L3 CES manager post on LinkedIn?

That is a real example of what you described, but still thinks she is all wonderful.

Correction on previous post… usually the L2 have good intentions…

The problem in EMIT is generally more the L3 than L2. Usually the L3 have some good intentions but are too disconnected from realities. They are also fed a stream of filters BS by their reports.

It is the L3 who typically lead EMIT and are a mixed bag. Some are fantastic and the sort of people you would trust to bat your corner or grab a beer with. Some, are power hungry careerists who are kingdom building to the detriment of everything and one around them.

@1seh+1dI6cyP9 Let’s not pretend that the culture of the entire company is reliant upon how a few L2s in EMIT are. They are somewhat responsible for culture, but they don’t have the ability to let you work 9/80, be paid more, more vacation days, relaxed dress code, wfh/work from another state, change away from forced ranking, etc. Those decisions are made above the L2s so blaming the L2 for a lot of the culture problems just doesn’t make sense. Sure they aren’t doing too much to stick their neck out there and saying that this is wrong (actually 2 in EMIT have), but this is something that is wrong from the very top down.

Left EM despite of no cube being available :-)
I feel so good now!!!

OP just figured this out, it's been going on for 15 years in EMIT. Pretty much since the merger.

ITRM lacks the motivation to choke anything. You are told to choke yourself and then you go choke yourself and then ask why you keep losing consciousness.

The saddest thing about the CES post was how every sentence was about I, ME, MY. I lost count of how many things this manager excelled at.

The inability to string together coherent sentences was the hallmark of someone for whom English is a second language (PowerPoint being number one).

Anxiously awaiting her next report on the mark she made.

I do get sickened by senior managers posting on LInkedin about how wonderful everything is. They are too dense to understand that everyone reading their posts sees them as self serving propaganda. Then again they live in the bubble and haven't heard the truth in years (nothing is more hilarious than a management visit to a GBC where they wallow in the obsequiousness of their minions) and dine on fiction in the form of Powerpoint.

It's simple, they are incompetent.

See that new CES mgr mugshot post on LI? That's pure unfiltered incompetency craving attention. But she does it right though, an LT's responsibility is to promote a cult of personality, even that means showing how stupid and incompetent she is.

So, what mark did you actually leave?

How can EMIT management be so obtuse?

@1zgj+1dI6cyP9 every single one of the L2’s and for that matter L3’s have spent literally decades running EMIT and its predecessor organizations. To say “but they have no choice” implies they aren’t wholly responsible for the awful culture in EMIT that has ALWAYS been just under the surface, but was masked by high pay and good opportunities in the US during the bo-m years.

“I fully expect the business to take over EMIT and start actually making decisions.”

That’s completely laughable. EMIT has NEVER been allowed to make any decisions for itself. I’ve seen over a dozen instances in the 6 years I’ve been here of EMIT making a good technical decision, the business overriding that decisions, and then the business coming back months later complaining and gaslighting EMIT.

While the L2s are not good, they don’t really have any choice. People have quit for tons of reasons but at the end of the day, it’s about pay. We’re severely underpaid. They can’t control our pay, it’s by BK and Dallas and HR.

I do fully agree that US EMIT will fade away, although it’ll take a bit longer due to some of the near retirement and lower talent wanting to stay. GBCs though will start getting bigger pay increases in 1-2 years and we will relax the English proficiency needed at GBCs which will open us up to more individuals.

EM can't recruit/retain decent IT personnel in any country on the globe.
Maybe in the distant past.
So what does it matter?

EMIT is non core. In the ‘new normal’ others can do it cheaper and maybe even better.

I don't know what the OP is talking about. My manager is clear about what she is expecting and we have clear KPIs and metrics for success! No wasted time here and I feel valued and work hard problems every day! /s

And they get paid by ticket count.

So, worse IT equals better pay.

Hmmm.

Can't wait to deal with an outsourced IT who have a heavy accent. Oh wait we have that already

This belongs on Glassdoor for more visibility. Great post OP.

EMIT believed they were impervious to disruption like the rest of the corporation. While there’s some truth to that in certain areas, what they didn’t realize is that their talent is still highly portable, much more so than say a Geoscientist or Petroleum Engineer. Now they’re paying the price. And yes, the L2’s are largely responsible for everything that’s happened, and yet none of them seem to be held accountable. MB should’ve cleaned house and BK unfortunately doesn’t seem to know better.

We are talking about a number that is _relatively_ low here.

Whatelse's days are NOT numbered? LOL

@rqr+1dI6cyP9, if it is all roses, why are you here? ;-)

I thought all was well?! UIT just had a sweet Halloween contest in front of the cube. What gives?

ITRM is choking the life out of XOM. they make it so hard to work here.

Fire ITRM and FI first and fast.