https://www.inquirer.com/business/vanguard-1000-dollar-vaccine-bonus-wharton-katy-milkman-20210804.html
there you go. lets do this WFC! Oh, and increase insurance premiums on non-vaccinated for an FDA APPROVED vaccination.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-vaccine-insurance-premiums/
Why not since insurance premiums and rates are based on risk and there is statistical proof since most hospitalized are unvaccinated and therefore, should pay more.
Great idea to offer people money to learn basic high school biology.
Problem is that the average graduate of the school systems here is educated only to an eighth grade level. So that’s a big leap to make in the frame of a raging pandemic.
this is only going in one direction and that direction is pretty obvious. Mandated vaccines by employers were legally upheld even before the Pfizer vaccine received final approval. In just a few days' time, many more mandates... and then differential insurance rates, etc.
For those saying "where does it stop" in terms of differential rates - there are many dimensions that insurers do this on already. The legality of this approach has already withstood court challenges as well.
Yes, you absolutely have freedom to choose whether you get vaccinated or not. But you don't get to choose the consequences.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine
FDA’s approval… their words in the press release.
They should charge more for those other illnesses IF preventable and precautions can be made and are chosen not to. So yeah, if someone wants to eat beyond obese and then they will need to pay more. If folks want to smoke, they will have to pay more. Why do you think they are doing the health testing? Only a matter of time and this will be a great place to start.
Since the intelligence is not there, employees with this stupidity are welcome to leave. The majority will win, which are the people wearing masks and people taking the vaccine.
Well, the anti-vaxxers are out in full strength and they're not going to let science get in their way.
The topic has gone from infuriating to boring and useless.
Don't get your shot, fine, the rest of us will eventually be dining out, going to concerts, parties, while you folks slowly realize that you are wrong.
And I hope you'll apologive for spreading misinformation, becaure you're hurting Americans.
I think a lot of folks posting here would fail that intelligence test…
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Apparently there needs to be an intelligence test before people can procreate. After all, you have to be able to actually take care of the child rather than have others do it, right?
I read the 13 page FDA announcement and the word approved did not appear one time. The EUA was extended with conditions. Go read it for yourself
Japan also had COVID under control until recent months. What was the difference? American Olympians entering the country. Also not a coincidence.
A lady died of Covid today. The nurse spent all day checking on her as her breathing became less and less regular until it stopped. She was working with her doctor the whole time. They had to notify her family, the funeral home, prepare the body, etc. As soon as the bed was empty, it was filled with the next person waiting to be admitted to the COVID floor. People have died waiting on ICU or progressive care beds because there are none available. 95% of those in hospitals are unvaccinated.
This is just in one NC suburb. This is happening all over America. Nurse are at their breaking point after 18 months. Just because half the people in this country are being totally stupid. Meanwhile in Europe people have gotten back to normal. Coincidence? If you think so, you are stupider that I thought.
Great idea, but let's not stop there. Let's charge people that have HIV more for insurance. And how about over weight people and unhealthy eaters. You think COVID is expensive? Heart disease ki---d more people last year. And how about we charge women more? I mean pregnancy and delivering babies ain't cheap. How about we require genetic testing for all so we can increase the insurance price for anyone with a genetic predisposition to anything? They will wind up costing more, so why not? How about we require spouses to get genetic testing also, they might be in the plan and if the couple are going to make babies, God, we need to know if there's going to be any extra expenses there. Better just have the insurance company approve all weddings, just in case. And there could be an officer of the state oversees things to make sure that only the right people are procreating and ordering sterilization if not. And...and...
Great ideas, right? They would decrease insurance expenses, so it's all good right? I mean, insurance company profits and expenses are far and away the most important thing in the world, right?
Sheep is cheap
I refuse to get vaxed. I hate needles. Sorry friends.
Well you’re an a-s!
Naturally immunity will not be tolerated, they'll be forced to vaccinate and continue with 'boosters' until they have no immune system left.
What about an increasing segment of the population that has fully recovered? When published, this study may change the way we think about those folks.
https://unherd.com/thepost/bombshell-study-finds-natural-immunity-superior-to-vaccination/
"People in their 30s and 40s are dying of COVID"
With COVID, and even then the numbers are relatively low compared to other age groups unless the CDC is lying about it. Especially for those in their 30s. Does it happen? Sure, but 145000 thirty somethings have died in the last 18 months (all causes), and 3k of those were COVID pos when they passed. Some may have actually died of COVID, but the vast majority of those had conditions that preclude 'healthy'. Data is on the CDC site.
I think we should offer people money to learn basic high school biology.
Because it really, really looks like the anti-vaxxers need a refresher course.
Tin hat wearing weirdos are engdangering Americans with their magnetic microchip animal dewormer nonsense.
People in their 30s and 40s are dying of COVID. Healthy as you call it has nothing to do with how hard it hits you if you are unvaccinated, especially the delta variant. My spouse has dealt with this the last 18 months as a health care worker, I know a lot more about what’s going on in hospitals than you do, I imagine.
Don’t buy the line of bull the talking head QAnon types are feeding you before it’s too late. They have their own agenda and don’t care about you.
You mean the ones still in trials?
Nice stereotyping, but not everyone opposed to this used FDA approval as a crutch. And what "logical sense" does it make to take a new experimental dr-g for something that is no risk to you? I don't mean you or I personally, I mean just the average person that has near-zero risk? Say a 25 year old healthy person. COVID is less of a risk than driving a car. Should they be forced to take experimental dr-gs to treat something that's no risk? Should they also be forced not to use those much riskier public roads? And when does it end? Are there no limits?
Look up AIDS vaccines, look up SARS vaccines (yes, they have been marketed). Quick look at mRNA, RNA.
I can't help you any more fella. If you really don't want to look at this. Fine. But your ignorance shows. Really doesn't take long to dispel your beliefs. But only if you aren't afraid of doing that. Since that won't happen, good luck to you. It takes a strong person to admit they are wrong. You are not one of those people. But, it's been fun.
Considering it takes 8-10 years for the average dr-g to be marketable, the fact that hasn’t happened shouldn’t be a big surprise. I wouldn’t want to wait 10 years after a pandemic starts for that personally and anyone with any logical sense would feel the same.
Even with FDA approval, the anti-vaxxers keep coming up with excuses as I predicted. They are just getting lamer and lamer.
Translation: there are none. Thanks for playing though.
It's funny how your ounce of intelligence doesn't lead you to wonder why a technology that goes "way further back" hasn't resulted in any marketable dr-gs. Unless there's a 'crisis', blank checks, and an 'anything goes' approval process though, then it's no problem. lol. There is no long term data. Have there been trials of other dr-gs with this tech? Sure, and they didn't lead to marketed dr-gs and they aren't the same dr-gs as what is being used for COVID, so it's non-applicable data.
Good heavens man. Get just an ounce of intelligence. You can google all the data you need. But you won't read it I'm sure. And this data goes way further back than Covid-19, and from very respected institutions and scientists. WAY further back. But those that don't want to believe, won't. So what's the point?
The level of panophobia and ignorance is the US is astounding. And ever increasing.
Great! Please provide a full list of all such vaccines that have been approved for use in humans and have been used in anything but trials. Either in the US or overseas. I look forward to researching them and learning a lot of great information.
You're in luck! mRNA vaccine has been successfully used for more than 10 years. Covid 19 required a different protein mix. This perpetuation that this is some kind of new vaccine is truly ignorant.
Go for it if you want to waste the $ WF, I really don't care. Vaccination isn't happening without 5-10 years of long term human trial safety data. Then, maybe. Until then no one has any idea what these injections are doing to us. People saying "it's safe!" have no idea what they are talking about. No one does. It's like you started smoking 15 minutes ago and turn to someone else and say "see, I'm still alive, it's SAFE!". Uh, no, you're not.
Still wouldnt do it.
Activism to modify behavior is still bullying, just under the auspices of doing it for the greater good.
Try leaving people alone and things sort themselves out
Charging extra for insurance is ridiculous. They should be charging all the fat hogs more too then, they drive up insurance for us in shape.
I like this carrot approach. Perhaps if those vaccinated got 1% of their salary as a reward...
Delta airlines just said they'll charge an extra $100 per month if they don't have the vaccination
I hate this pro vs. anti vaxx stuff already ... how much more divided can we get?
It's the end of the world ... and I feel fine!
Hey yellow star guy, you need to stop. Getting life saving medicine is nothing like what you're implying.
You anti-vax folks always show your true selves and it's never a good look.
"and let’s give away demerits to those who chose not to have a jab. This will show them how to not obey/submit to fear."
FTFY
Just like charging smokers more, you’ll see insurance companies charging more and therefore, companies will pass that on to those who choose risky behavior and not to protect public health.
Just as it should be.