Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

if they do add a no-vaccine surcharge, most employees will just recoup the added out of pocket by taking unofficial personal time that the company will never be able to track-down. If the surcharge is say $300/mo, all most mgmt folks need to do is grab 4-6 hours per month to cover that.

It's the action-reaction thing. ATT isn't very bright about most of their decisions. Remember "project collaborate"? LOL

Post from TheLayoff.com
Wrong!
https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/texas-veteran-dies-from-gallstone-pancreatitis-as-covid-crisis-impacts-those-who-dont-have-virus/285-44cc982f-bba0-43e5-b51f-bbb607ad45fc

@1kur+1cvVR8yy

You said, “… they take a bed and lifesaving resources away from someone who took this virus seriously!”

Did you think that through? If by saying they “took (the) virus seriously,” you mean they received the “vaccine” and are adhering to all the CDC guidelines for protecting themselves, why would they be in the hospital??

You make the argument for NOT a getting the jab, my friend.

Be sure to add the surcharge for all the employees who have children under 12, and be sure all their family members upload vaccine cards or more surcharges for you.

Don't worry about the surcharge. It's a small price to pay.

Will it only be for the employee on the plan or all the family members too? They are aft charge us extra because I have a working spouse on mine.

go look up project covid shielding on the cdc website. wake up people it is right in front of you.

I’ll pay the 200 dollars instead of getting the experimental vaccine for a virus that has a 99.97 recovery rate. Got the covid last March and recovered so why would I put poison in my body? I’ll just sit in my van for an hour every week to make up the 200.

Deal with it.

You could make the same inane claim about 100’s of things people do in their lives and make personal decisions on.

What about the weed-heads or people living “alternate lifestyles”? They cost all of us and the company more in insurance payouts.

Unfortunately the courts are completely politicized, so the company will be allowed to pick and chose, no matter the hypocrisy.

"Hydroxychloroquine? You got malaria? Too bad it doesn't work for ignorance."

go tell that to the people that used to get rid of covid or the doctors curing their patience.

If you get the vaccination, AT&T will take care of you. They will give you all the time you need to get back to good health. For sure.

Post from TheLayoff.com

I agree! My cousin lost two good friends in the past 2 weeks to what they are attributing to COVID. However, both were morbidly obese. Their lungs are already under all of that pressure, it couldn't take less airways from the virus (that's what current articles say happen to obese people with COVID ANYWAY)

So if I get the jab and end up with a severe life altering condition (as my SISTER has!)..... it will be a full pay workmans comp claim, correct?

Don't be obese. Nobody likes obese people.

"if many continue to suck money for illness that is preventable"

you mean obesity?

All corporation that provide heatlhcare to employee's, are usually self insured, and insuracce company only provides admin services and negotiates prices. These companies always review the overall cost, and will adjust employee cost, based on losses and risk. Like discounts offered for non-smoking, I'm sure some will provide discounts for covid vaccine, or if many continue to suck money for illness that is preventable, they will increase employee contribution.

@1xma+1cvVR8yy what you have posted is faked news. that is US employees only not worldwide.

that makes it even worse. so please stop posting fake news.

"heard from my lawyer that if you don't want to get vaccinated make your company fire you. do not quit! they cite legal reasons and lawsuit reasons."

Hopefully your attorney also advised you to go ahead with the exemption process first. If they deny that, it gives you better legal odds if they fire you. But yes, do not quit. Attorneys are waiting for people to be fired before they file lawsuits.

Employers are not supposed to question your beliefs you state in the exemption and those beliefs are not conditional on how long you have held them. Most of the time they deny the exemption if a reasonable accommodation is not workable in their opinion. However in most cases simply working from home and agreeing to be tested prior to coming to an office and wearing a mask in the office is a reasonable accommodation. It certainly helps if you have been working from home for a while or are designated as such. Also do not give the company information ahead of time. The time to let them know is when you fill out the form or write the narrative and submit it.

@1xma+1cvVR8yy has posted fake news on multiple threads of this page.

WHO is the only group you listed that isn’t requiring vaccines. You continue to post nonsense from whatever your preferred conspiracy site is peddling.

Source: https://www.9news.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/vaccine/cdc-white-house-fda-moderna-pfizer-johnson-mandate-covid-vaccines-employees/536-e2080147-2e26-4b79-8451-13ceac2e44b8

heard from my lawyer that if you don't want to get vaccinated make your company fire you. do not quit! they cite legal reasons and lawsuit reasons.

"Treat it just like the smoking surcharge. Just as they didn't make you stop smoking, they make you decide how much you really care about your health to keep doing it and passing along the consequences."

Uh smoking is a little different they are helping people trying to keep something OUT of your body.
I would say that is totally different. the level of ignorance on this board is amazing and makes you see why att is in the shape they are in.

There should be a $300/month surcharge against any employee who is eligible for Medicare. These decisions are hard, but the company simply cannot afford what it used to.

We are not going to survive as a wireless and internet company. People don't pay as much for that as they used to.

Treat it just like the smoking surcharge. Just as they didn't make you stop smoking, they make you decide how much you really care about your health to keep doing it and passing along the consequences.

If you gotta pay, you gotta pay.

It is a health plan. Why not pay $200 a month to keep your health? It's all coming out of AT&T's pocket at the end of the day. We just live here.

Not just $200. It’s $200 a month.

$200 that's all? It should be much more! I'm so sorry but there are consequences for every decision. I'm sick and tired of hearing people whining and complaining about their rights not to get a vaccination or wear a mask and my personal favorite "if it's my time to go then so be it"! But as soon as they get COVID that sense of personal responsibility and the willingness to die, suddenly flies right out the damn window on their way to the hospital where they take a bed and lifesaving resources away from someone who took this virus seriously!

If you don't want to get the vaccine that's your choice - quit already or wait to get terminated! Some of us are plain tired of the whining!

Here is a list of employers not requiring employees get vaccinated.

1. The White House
2. The CDC
3. The FDA
4. The WHO
5. Moderna
6. Pfizer
7. Johnson & Johnson

Are you awake yet?

Who only $200? That isn’t nearly enough to cover costs for positive COVID patients needing hospitalization.

Nobody is forcing you to do anything. You can choose not to get vaccinated and deal with whatever comes of it.

I don’t care … I’m not getting it!! Apply the pressure if you want … but as time goes by, let’s see how much MORE the company ends up paying once the long term side effects of the jab kicks in !

@jvo+1cvVR8yy May I identify as vaccinated? Asking for a friend..

Will AT&T also be losing my luggage?

You can alway leave. No coercion at all.

This is going to get settled the same way people with HIV were treated when it came to insurance benefits in the 1990's.

is op HR or something or a VP. don't worry when the time companies will pay for forcing people to take the vaccine.

and yes losing ones job is forcing and coercion.

Follow the Commissioners...

Scott Gottlieb - Former Commissioner of the FDA resigns and then goes to Pfizer to be on the board of directors.

Stephen Hahn - Replaces Gottlieb as FDA Commissioner and eventually resigns. He is now the Chief Medical Officer for Moderna.

Janet Woodcock - Wrongly advises Rick Bright (a fully-controlled individual) that HCQ is a dangerous dr-g requiring EUA that should be ONLY limited to hospitalized patients. Remember, all of the relevant clinical data at the time showed HCQ to be extremely effective in early treatment and NOT in hospitalized patients. Several months later Janet Woodcock replaces Stephen Hahn as the Commissioner of the FDA.

Is this all making sense yet?

"CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese"

I agree. AT&T should charge the obese 2 or 3 extra surcharges. Super-size them.

AT&T is just going to fire everyone who doesnt get the vax, no need to penalize them for additional insurance fees