Chevron has agreed to let there US Health Insurance Providers, charge more for unvaccinated employees. In an effort to reduce the employee risk profile and save company costs and reduce out of pocket premiums, the company has agreed with there Health Insurance companies to charge higher premiums for adults (not kids (dependents)) who are not vaccinated, classifying it as risk activity similar to smoking. Everyone stay strong, resist the vaccine!!!
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Research, please do your own investigation into the issue. If you earnestly and thoroughly research this topic and still believe that jab risks are very low and its proven to be both safe and effective, God help you.
Every day we find out more things about CDC trickery with numbers. It sounds like most of them were trained by Arthur Anderson.
If you die within 14 days of receiving your 2nd vaccination it does not count as a vaccine-related death. They just call it Covid and then rake the pile of money towards their wallets.
That’s why I keep my mouth shut on issues like this. Nobody at work knows my private business and I don’t offer my opinions either. I’m unvaccinated and will absolutely keep it that way. I have felt compelled to get a convincingly fake Vaxx card with an actual vaccine lot number and date of inoculation. I have it saved in the event Chevron requests it from me. Sad is the day that in the United States, an individual is forced to give up their rights. But, true is the fact that for every measure, there is a countermeasure, and I intend to cheat the company with the same impunity as they seek to cheat me.
safe environment at the cost of EE lives?
Maintaining a safe work environment is now a bad thing?
dun sign the waivers. CVX just wants you to get vaccinated to keep its work environment safe.
any side effects and costs are your liability.
any economic benefits are CVX
And yet those that are vaccinated feel that the unvaccinated are mentally deficient.
Substitute something else for the vax and you'd have something that would not stand up in court. You are being forced to take something under duress while indemnifying the person forcing you from all responsibility if you should fall ill.
So I was looking at the exemption waver and the vax waver came up too, it’s all in the forms site. They make you sign off that they are not liable if you take the vax but then require you to take it. This is self righteousness for you. Do as I say but if you do as I say I am not liable for it but if you don’t do as I say I am going to fire you.
Employees should sign waivers to work unvaccinated as they are almost guaranteed to get sick and end up on hospital.
Chevron has a larger problem in the Pascagoula refinery where they are desperate to get people to accept the vax. They are having a company-sponsored vaccine event this Thursday, August 26th. I wonder what waivers people will have to sign when they get the vaccine that Chevron is facilitating?
If they mandate it, they are responsible for everything that happens to you afterwards.
@3gkf - unfortunately for you, vaccinated people can catch & transmit COVID...something the NIH, CDC, FDA and every other regulatory agency that gets to bless COVID related information failed to tell you back in February when they released it for wide use. They either knew boosters every 6-8 months would be needed and didn't tell you, because "you can't handle the truth"...or they truly didn't know, which should speak volumes about maybe the science isn't settled on this one.
I think vaccines are the safest bet people who are most at risk have to avoiding sever complications with this virus. I also think it's damn near criminal to ignore positive data around therapeutics, protections that come with natural immunity and censor medical professionals that want to openly discuss strategies that are alternative to the all-in vaccine campaign. I believe those are reasonable positions to hold, and the fact that people have been whipped up in a frenzy over this, to the point that a healthy level of skepticism and "trust but verify" are such foreign concepts in our society today is very disappointing.
www.hipaajournal.com/is-it-a-hipaa-violation-to-ask-for-proof-of-vaccine-status/
No
With HIPPA laws, how do they do that exactly?
It is only a mandate if you require a job at Chevron. You are completely free to do as you like. Nobody is forcing you to work hear.
"to let there US Health Insurance Providers" Who wrote this, a second grader?
"The mandates will follow for all office personnel very shortly. Why wouldn't they?" ... Yes indeed. Why would they not apply to all work sites, since that would be the smart move. If Chevron makes me return to an office with unvaccinated people and I get CoVID would not that be an (OSHA: Preventable) job related injury? No different than making me climb without a safety line. There is always time to do it right!
"Thanks, this comment and others like it make it easier to prove that Chevron is a discriminatory and hostile work environment."
And not to mention that our betters that influence culture have done a bang up job turning co-workers, neighbors, friends & families apathetic and cold to anyone that doesn't drink their tribe's kool-aid.
"Im good with higher HC fees for unvaccinated, But would rather see them get fired."
Thanks, this comment and others like it make it easier to prove that Chevron is a discriminatory and hostile work environment.
@1tht - The Gulf of Mexico Business Unit just announced that all employees / contractors, that travel to worksites, have to show proof of full vaccination by November 1st, 2021. I'd call that a mandate. And just like how everything else with COVID has been a slow roll of shifting goal posts, I'd bet 10 to 1 that the mandates will follow for all office personnel very shortly. Why wouldn't they?
Also, getting normal influenza vaccines has been a recent hard push from the health care industry. Like the seasonal flu vaccine, we'll likely find ourselves in a situation with COVID where we are having to take regular shots to protect against last year's variants....should the insurance companies roll in flu vaccines in this mandate as well? Saves money right?
@1uhv, It’s up to you if you want to make it a database. I don’t see this request being a mandate. Let it come from corporate, then we’ll see. I bet you 10 to 1 odds you’ll never see a corporate mandate or policy change. These regional and departmental initiatives don’t equate to a mandate equaling “do it or lose you job”. These emails come from “woke” individuals who are making a dire career ending decision for themselves. Just ignore the emails.
@1phl+1cpumhwv
So why does every HSE email and my supervisor and GM keep telling people to upload my vaccine card (I didn't get the jab, joke is on them) into the Employee Medical Record (EMR) Portal, despite nobody being in the office? Is that not a database?
What a laugh. There’s no centralized database in this country that will show who is or not vaccinated for the COVID-19 “vaccine”. Hence there’s no way US Healthcare insurers are going to charge higher premiums for anyone because they have or haven’t taken the jab. The OP is only trolling for attention. Move on.
Why do the vaccine makers still have immunity from lawsuits.
Why are the vaccines still considered experimental.
Im good with higher HC fees for unvaccinated,
But would rather see them get fired.
Since the birth control and the seatbelt analogy to COVID doesn't work here, we could try the football analogy to see if that one might hit home?
Nahhh...forget it.
The amount of zealotry displayed by pro-jabbers is astounding. In this case, the term vaccine is a misnomer as the “vaccinated” are spreading the variants as well. Financially penalizing individuals through insurance or job loss if they don’t receive an experimental technology jab, still under EUA, that now requires a booster after only 8 months (more boosters in the future?) is truly tyrannical.
Don’t forget to keep wearing your mask after you’ve had your 4th jab. I hear the 5th or 6th time is the charm!
Let's get rid of them pesky seat belt laws while we're at it.
Yeeeeeeeeehhhhaaaaaaaawwwwwwww.
I can't believe Chevron hired this many doofuses.
"While pregnancy is a health condition, the analogy of it as a sickness is made all the time!"
Maybe it's made all the time in deranged Karen Facebook circles, but not in the real world. What a spork you are.
Taking birth control or any safeguard that’s preventative is analogous to taking the vaccine.
@bfc+1cpumhwv, we regret to inform you that your services are no longer required at Chevron. We wish you good luck in your future endeavors.
@ 1jxx. BO-M!!!! Drop the mike.
Good. Smokers pay higher rates, so should the unwashed.
How you like living in right to work states now?
But pregnancy is not analogous to getting COVID. People want to get pregnant. I doubt any rational person wants to get COVID. There are positive benefits to getting pregnant. There are no positive effects of getting COVID. If pregnancy suddenly ceased to exist then the entire human race would cease to exist. If COVID ceased to exist then then we would celebrate. Its simply absurd to equate the two.
While pregnancy is a health condition, the analogy of it as a sickness is made all the time! What's more, taking birth control, like taking the vaccine, is similar because neither are 100% effective but both are considered a safeguard against the likelihood of a condition (pregnancy) or sickness (covid) happening . Doctors use the birth control analogy for taking the vaccine quite often. Both are lines of defense.
It will not make any difference at this point as the Delta can be transmitted by vaccinated people.
We already do this with smokers. Also, we give a discount for folks who submit their health questionnaire.
If you choose to behave in a way that increases your risk profile of a costly disease then you should pay higher premiums. I would be fine with charging obese people higher premiums too.
The analogy to having children and birth control is silly. Pregnancy is not a disease even though kids can make you feel mentally diseased at times.
How about charging the OP a premium for not being able to spell. You misspelled ‘their’ about four times.
Dunce…
It was just a matter of time before the insurance companies got With it. There’s no getting out of it now unless you want to pay. Be prepared to get hit in the wallet if you don’t get the jab.
Companies are allowed to charge more for insurance for those who don't have two teeth cleanings annually because statistics show teeth cleanings are tied to better overall health practices. Ditto to charging higher premiums for tobacco users. Charging higher premiums for those who won't get a vaccine is similar practice. Another option is having those who aren't vaccinated pay for any COVID-19 related hospitalization/ICU treatment.
Insurance companies don’t force birth control but they do incentivize by making it cheap under some plans. And they will likely do the same with the vax.... incentivize people to get it by making it free, cheap or by charging higher fees if you get some covid illness and are not vaccinated.
And, Birth control is linked to cancer yet women take it and men want them to take it yet the covid vaccine is a problem? Hmmm.....