- but it’ll be a lot more fun to watch my facility tank when they end up firing everyone who’s tired of playing pandemic. There’s only a few people who truly keep this place running and when they’re gone, it’s gonna be a sh!t show. I’d quit just to not have to deal with that.
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@4plx+1cRCOcf9 , Dear Felatia, MM approves your strong grip of his situation.
Less than 3 percent will leave. Work goes on without you Felicia
It's all true about the Penang factory but what can you do about it? Even back 10 years ago it was the same issues. When I worked with the Penang factory on issues, at the beginning of the year a guy was low man on the totem pole, by the of the year he was the factory manager!
It's a place for people to get trained and move on for more money. Don't be angry especially if you're not in a position of power to change it.
Redmond has the most complicated avionics circuitry compared to it's Business and General Aviation counterparts. Commercial avionics also has the added extra Boeing specs they have to meet which push the limit as to what's possible with current technology. So I feel for you and the low yields.
Corporate direction of moving manufacturing to low cost regions such as Penang for electronic-made products really has to change. Despite the huge engineering team over there, they have absolutely no idea how these products ought to be made nor designed. Some of them can't even properly read a circuit diagram. I am not belittling our folks in the asian region but merely pointing out facts from previous transitions where it always ends up bad. There are still products that after years since the transition are still not made correctly. Makes very little sense in having such a large team while the actual engineering work is still done thousand of miles away.
Rumour has it that more products will be transitioned from Olathe to Penang in the following months ahead. As a customer I would feel angry, and as a shareholder I will feel happy with a tinge of despair knowing that customers will eventually leave Honeywell for good with all the negativity.
I'm really not trying to push your buttons. When I came to HW on 96 all budgeting and programs originated in Engineering. This is the nightmare I'm talking about. As an example... major product, years in the making (millions $), could not pass HASS which you may know is part of the qualification process. Yes, engineering management found a way to get around it. What happened? The product was put on the top 10 warranty problems list costing HW millions in warranty cost not to mention Air Directives launched against it by several customers. The product had to be completely redesigned (by that time AME held the purse strings) due to severe EMI issues. After redesign, eliminating the issues it passed HASS and all qual testing easily, all units function the same and Penang was and still is manufacturing the product with very high yields. They called me in at many high level (VP/Director) meetings to try and deal with the Redmond/Boeing issues years later but it really was/is a management problem.... resistance was futile!
It is absolutely fair to say that moving to Penang was the start of the current sh1t show. Blaming design engineers is scapegoating. The CEO is always responsible for what happens in their company. The buck stopped at Cote's desk and it now stops at DA's desk. When you take a look at the yield and quality numbers before that move and then take a look at the same thing after that move, it's visible from orbit. Dave Cote and his minions that run the place are Jack Welsh disciples. That sewage ruined GE and is the slow death knell for Honeywell.
@dav+1cRCOcf9: Boomers are the ones already vaccinated. Try again, Skippy.
Most hardware design issues are EMI related. They need to be addressed at the board layout level. It always amazed me to see brilliant circuit designers not able to understand how current flows in a circuit board and sc--w up the manfacturability of the product. Creating unintentional antennas across the circuit board drives up cost.
@2hro - So if there were design issue why did they still move to Penang? I guess leadership didn't k ow or didn't care. Or maybe fixing issue cost $$? You know Hon does not want to spend $$.
It's not really fair to say the move of production to Penang was the decline of qualitity. It appears that way because the product designs were not robust enough for lost cost region manufacturing. When each radio has multiple hand ops during production tuning and every radio is different, that falls back on the design engineering team. I was in the trenches for twenty 20 and saw this first hand. There's a lot of big egos in engineering and many are incompent "not invented by me" ar-e kissers.
lol - the hr and "leader$hi!" trolls starting their drinking snark early this week!
The sh1t show started circa 2009-10 after production was moved to Penang by Dave Cote. There were also other production and design moves to "low cost geographies". It was supposed to reduce cost by 67%. By the time all was said and done, it increased the cost by 67%. Yields took a nose dive from 90% to 50% (on a good day). And Boeing decided did not to have Honeywell avionics or flight controls on any of their new designs, starting with the large format display project in 2010-11 that ended up going to Collins (now part of Raytheon).
Lol, just started at Boeing and you should hear what the installers think of honeywell. I don't mention I worked there. Our rf stuff is total c--p and 50 percent don't even turn on when we first get them. I never realized.
So.. the s--t show started about 10 years ago according to my new coworkers..
When did you start at honeyhell again?
Already attracted 3 HR/Management/BrwnNoser trolls! WFH Covidianism is a plague on productivity...
Lol weeding those boomers out one by one
Here we go again. Another post declaring that Honeywell is going down the drain. Sorry but that is not going to happen. Will be great to get all of the adult mo--ns who don't believe in science out of here.
I cannot wait for all the "I'm gonna quit because of the vaccine!" To not stand by their word when actually forced to do so. Even if half of people do leave i can finally work a day without hearing adults cry about getting shots more than a toddler does