Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Sense of dread

Why do I feel such a sense of dread approaching mid year reviews this year. I have always had good reviews but feel different this year. Apparently there was some requirement to start having career conversations. I was half expecting HR to be on the call. Then my boss just wanted to talk about projects. Not even my projects… waste of time. I guess my career isn’t worth talking about.

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Honeywell is a criminal organization.

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Post ID: @erti+1biuj09s

The PIP stories people are telling remind me of a song title that fits Honeywell appropriately

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

I would not trust any Honeywell HR types and refuse to talk to them without a Lawyer present

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Post ID: @2cfm+1biuj09s

Hard workers are disposed of when they are at their most vulnerable - 45 plus - too young to retire, but no longer naive enough to put up with the garbage ladled out by the "management."

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Post ID: @1bkv+1biuj09s

Message heard. Career discussion was an eye opener for me and I am working my resume this weekend. Will post again when I get a new job.

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Post ID: @mgi+1biuj09s

The career discussions, at least as generally conducted, are a sham. It is in Honeywell's best interest to minimize opportunities to move around internally. Internal moves are generally promotions, which means an increased salary which impacts HON's bottom line. An internal move also leaves a ho-e in a group, which means a drop-off in productivity until the replacement hire can get up to speed. For those pegged as hi-pots/chosen ones/fast trackers career discussions were already being held prior to the mandate, so no real change to the status quo.

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Post ID: @sdy+1biuj09s

PIP and Release happened the same way for me too. The Career Conversation was not about my next promotion, assignment or future development. It was about my specific goals and current projects. The career conversation was I feel actually about their targeting me for PIP and release from the company to reduce cost. It was a no win situation. The discussion focused on projects and goals which I feel they planned to be used to put me and put me on PIP using my own words against me. I was informed a few weeks later I was being put on PIP. The PIP process had me document a written plan outlining the status of my goals and projects and how I planned to meet the objectives. My written PIP documentation and my own words where then used against me to justify my release and only later did I learn my replacement was provided my insights about my goals and projects and the way I plan to reach my goals and objectives, because my manger that conducted the career conversation did not have a clue how to meet my objectives, much less his own goals and objectives. It was both the road map for the new person and the justification for release. I still ask myself “How could it have been both a road map for the new person and the basis for my release”, unless I was being targeted for release based on my age, salary and benefits cost to the business. It was a no win situation and I feel they knew it from the beginning and just wish I had known what they were doing from the beginning too. I now know it’s a best practice for replacing an employee and helping the new person get up to speed quickly.

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Post ID: @awi+1biuj09s

The Career Discussions are for everyone, at least in DV engineering. They are supposed to be to lay out a plan for future at Honeywell. While I'm not saying that you are not being targeted for a PIP and a layoff, the Career Discussion by itself is not a special action.

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Post ID: @clz+1biuj09s

This same thing happened to me. Only later did I figure out my Manager was gathering information to put me on PIP to justify my release. They did the brain drain to get all the knowledge and information about my projects and activities to use against me. Then the PIP requirements had me document all my knowledge and projects to be the evidence against me and then to turn over to my replacement. This is the process and the way they play the game PIP justification legal game.

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Post ID: @bcn+1biuj09s

It’s all about your age 48+, wages and benefits and your bottom line cost to the business unit. If they can replace you with a lower cost employee or shift your position to be performed by a person off shore in a low cost country they will put you on PIP to justify your release.

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