United just ordered battery powered 20-seater planes for delivery within five years. By then larger planes will be electric and aviation fuel sales will be done. Chevron needs to move faster.
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Electric planes make great Christmas and birthday gifts for young kids. But don’t go selling me on actually getting inside one and flying to 20,000 feet above ground. That ain’t happening. Die Hard isn’t just the name of a battery. It’s how you’ll end your life when the S-B propellers stop in mid air.
Unlikely but if so jump in the chance to unload that lemon and chalk it up to experience.
The KBB value of my ICE Mercedes went up last year because nobody wants those I guess.
Maybe an electric Mercedes would be more reliable than the appalling ICE models. Nobody wants those.
Glad I got my Mercedes already then.
Yesterday Mercedes announced plans to accelerate to 100% electric vehicles within a few years.
Peterbilt stock has demolished Chevron the last five years mate.
Dump your Peterbilt stock !
The Tesla semi goes into production this year. 500 mi capacity and 80,000 lb payload. Cheapest cost per mile of any truck on the road.
@3bdh+1bQK3WNB
Nonsense. The more we drill and frac the better we get at the technology and the more we find.
Electricity is here and now. Get electric or get extinct.
Vi-r@tor takes the prize.
Heck, I’m good alone with an electric vi-----r that takes AA batteries.
Fantasy boy wants to change careers to mining now. What's stopping you, tough guy? Big talk, no do? I was in mining for years (Grasberg). Buh-bye. Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you, Lmao!
It’s not a fantasy, it is here. Now. Cars. Planes very soon. And all the rest. Wake up and smell the cheese (It moved!), or be left behind. If you need a better career, rare earth might be it!
A single electric car needs between six and 12kg of cobalt, with a requirement of almost 120,000 tonnes a year anticipated by 2030. How much would the battery/ies of an airplane need?
Rare earth metals are certainly not getting any lighter. I suppose the technology needed to strip the metals from the earth needs to progress as much as battery development, storage and the necessary waste treatment and disposal of the products generated. We have a long way to go before battery technology becomes our answer to less reliance on fossil fuel. I tend to agree with the post that says it’s doubtful that we’ll ever get there.
@1szg, your a Luddite. Research some, there were electric cars and trucks back in the 1910-1930. No one ever said a battery couldn’t power a car. They just think it’s not a good idea. Let’s see how many of the electric cars will still on the road in 20 years. Let’s see what happens when those batteries need replaced. When the car is salvaged and you have tons of scrap batteries laying around junkyards. Let see the people who live in run down trailers afford a charging station so they can get to work. Let’s see what happens after 30-40 years of strip mining for the heavy metals. You think Just because the pollution happens in someone else’s country it doesn’t count. Seriously you can’t be this ignorant.
@1szg+1bQK3WNB,
"who said a battery couldn't power a phone or car"? haven't heard of that in my lifetime. a bit of projection perhaps? I wouldn't be calling yourself a luddite if I were you. you're embarrassing yourself with the obvious projection.
@1acw, Hydrogen plane? The Hindenburg was a hydrogen dirigible and we witnessed what happened to it— Oh, the humanity!!!!!
I had a battery powered airplane when I was a little kid. I used to put a small lizard or baby frog in it and fly it around. Now United Airlines is putting in orders for electric planes? I’m not a lizard or a frog, so you won’t find me flying in one of those big toys.
You are the same Luddites who said a battery couldn’t run a car or a phone. The technology is evolving rapidly. There will be lighter and more powerful batteries every year in planes, trains and semi trucks.
The problem is that batteries are big and heavy. The more weight you’re trying to move, the more batteries you need to power the vehicle. But the more batteries you use, the more weight you add—and the more power you need. Even with big breakthroughs in battery technology, electric vehicles will probably never be a practical solution for things like 18-wheelers, cargo ships, and passenger jets. Electricity works when you need to cover short distances.
The batteries? Awesome, they are almost past ans affordable 200 mile capacity for cars. Guess we'll have to wait. Don't you mean DISPOSING of the toxic batteries with rare earth metals? Same for solar panels. It's fun to speculate about the future when our great grandchildren are living in an increasingly toxic waste dump of a planet. Carry on, kiddies!
It is all about the batteries - they are evolving fast. Cars, phones, etc. Flight is easily achievable and already happening. Wake up.
Hydrogen plane might work, electric with today’s battery technology…. No way!
D-mbest post ever. Look into the details concerning speed, distance, emergency reserves, weight limits, etc. A nuclear plane would make more sense.
@azk, Easy, for now, anyway, mainly with generators powered by Natural Gas from the Facilities that you guys develop. operate and maintain. Thanks for your contribution to modern society. And with the ever increasing demand for electronics and their various components built with hydrocarbons and it's derivatives, your contributions will be required far into the foreseeable future!
Larger planes won’t be electric any time soon, if ever. Not in our lifetimes.
How will they charge the batteries for those planes?