I see so many people here bragging about planning to leave without even giving the two weeks' notice and others cheering them on. While I know it's so tempting to stick it to the company or your manager, I'd ask you to reconsider for your own sake. There is zero reason for you to burn bridges when you don't have to. You might end up needing a reference or you might even be in a position that you want to return to work here, and then what? Just a few words of wisdom from someone who's been around the block a few times.
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It’s a small world sometimes. People in our industry know each other and move around.
True. So think next time before you hit send on that tweet or like that id––t post on Facebook or post that video that make you look like an id––t.
@1atk. Don’t be naive. If you think potential employers don’t check ALL your social media presences, you are fooling yourself.
Really don't think you would have anything to worry about in not giving a notice when you leave if you are never going back. Due to legal reasons a company is only going to release basic information if there is any type of outside inquiry. Plus the Wells Fargo name will be gone in a couple of years when it's broken up and sold off.
Most background checking is more behind the scenes casual. Hey Bob, you worked at Wells Fargo, ever worked with so–and–so? Oh yeah, I remember him, he was ......
so you never really know what will catch up to you, good or bad.
site only allowing 25 posts per topic, they are trying to save money too i guess
@pph+1asc6dg3, hey Einstein, companies dont use linkedin connections for references; they ask the candidate for 3 references to provide.
Have you ever had a job before?
I have never once had a company go to my linked in contacts for references; they ask you to fill out a form and you write them on the form and it also asks your permission to contact them.
Where did this guy think Companies go to linked in to find references, goodness, maybe he got his new job at a McDonalds drive thru
Yup, lol. Most of the patronizing advice on here are boomer fables where honest hard work and gumption are always rewarded by the noble corporate employer.
@voh+1asc6dg3 Did you know that if they did that without your permission, it violates the FCRA? Plus, most companies don't do their own background checks because of liability issues. Most use a company like First Advantage. FA will only do what is legal.
@hha+1asc6dg3 dude, you are truly an a$$. The poster was stating what was legal, and what WF is currently doing. Plus, you are an id––t if you are connected with toxic people from your employer via linkedin. You sound like an HR person afraid that the gates are about to open and you will actually have to earn a living for a change. The only thing that matters is providing a notice that you are leaving. It doesn't matter if it's at that moment or if it's for two weeks or three months.
@rli+1asc6dg3 I am not the one hiding my LinkedIn connections. Anyone is free to ask for feedback on me, it’s always worked in my favor.
FYI I’m pretty sure complacency doesn’t mean what you think it means.
@voh+1asc6dg3, what I dont get is what are you afraid they will find out? Did you do some thing that bad in your work? Were you complacent?
Honestly most employers are so desperate for good current workforce, they really dont care about some old nut job manager, who may or may not be mentally stable.
In any case, just do a good job and you wont have to worry about your reputation so much.
@ldk+1asc6dg3 Um, I found a new job. My experience was that hiring managers reached out to folks I might have worked with in past roles, to see if they knew me and had an opinion. Luckily I'm not self–destructive enough to burn my bridges, so the feedback only helped me.
FYI –– It wouldn't have mattered if I hid my LinkedIn connections, since the issue wasn't my connections, but who the hiring manager knew at my past companies.
Do you know how LinkedIn works at all? Please try to keep up.
@bhg+1asc6dg3, I am sure it happens to complacent people like you, too scared to get a new job when the company you work for wants you to leave. Sounds like you have a great job!
You need to learn to be strong, being a wus never wins, you will be walked all over.
Sure whatever you say. The world is full of "easy" lawsuits to win. Which law school did you attend?
I'm sure it never happens, I must have just been imagining it.
@bps 'you do you', but how exactly would a former employer "pull you back"? They won't, and have no interest in doing so. Even if they did, they obviously can't force you to come work for them, so what are you even talking about?
@hha+1asc6dg3, linkedin you hide your connections. Main reason is recruiters get on there and scan your connections and try to spam them with job requests. What you mentioned is also another good reason to hide.
Based on US law, all they can do is ask for dates, if someone messes up your reputation/blackballs you, then its an easy win in a law suit. Everything is recorded or on video.
Some bridges need to be burned. Otherwise the riff raff tries to pull you back across it.
What are you talking about? If you don't think your reputation follows you when you leave simply because WF won't provide details for background checks, well... best of luck to you.
Yes, with a background check, very little is shared. But the professional world is small. All a hiring manager has to do is look for LinkedIn connections at Wells Fargo, and start asking who knows you. It's all unofficial, off the record and can be really damaging if you are a bridge burner.
If it's down to two candidates, and one gets good (or no) feedback via the grapevine, and feedback for the other isn't not glowing... who do you think I'm going to hire?
But hey, go ahead. You be you.
If a potential future employer calls for an employment reference, they get a basic start/end dates and rehire–ability (in most cases). In almost all cases, WF does not actually speak to the company performing the background check. It is very unlikely you will be listed as 'non–rehire–able' because you didn't give two weeks. You need to provide a notice, but I would do it day of, send a copy to your personal email. The only reason for that is so that they cannot say you abandoned your job.
Op, they are telling everyone to get new jobs and leave; this is not sticking it to the company, it is helping the company.
Didnt you get the memo? They dont want people working here esp those over 2 years tenure
For anyone that thinks that they are "sticking it to the man" when they leave poorly, you are deluding yourself. Management is very VERY glad when people like that leave on their own accord. It's the best thing for the organization, they don't have to wrangle with HR for 6 months to get rid of you, and it eliminates any regret they have about your departure. So congrats, you just turned the sentiment from "that's unfortunate, Joe was a really good member of the team. Oh well, hope it works out for him..." into "wow, I'm soooo glad that guy left!" and you become the b––t of many 'bad employee stories' for years to come. So yeah, you're not sticking it to anyone but yourself by leaving poorly. Better to take pride in your work and yourself and exit in the best way possible. It may or may not benefit you in the future, but no one ever had negative consequences from leaving well...and many have had negative consequences from leaving poorly. Pretty simple risk/reward calculus.
@ilv. Reading is a skill, which seems to have escaped you.
If you read the OP's post carefully, I don't think he/she is characterizing leaving for a better job as "burning bridges". It's the way people make their exit –– telling their boss to take the job and shove it, not giving two week's notice etc. that can have long–term negative consequences.
I agree that "the bank" will never remember if you were a jerk when you left, but your boss (and anyone they tell about it) will, and you never know when they will have the chance to influence whether you are hired for a position. It doesn't have to be a job working for them again. But if a hiring manager or recruiter knows your boss, and asks if they know you and can give feedback...
Don't assume that because you don't like or respect your boss, no one else does. Everyone has professional contacts who value their opinion.
Can't tell you how many times I've reached out to a WF contact on LinkedIn about a role or hiring manager at their new company, and they said "Oh yes, I already got a call asking for feedback about you after you applied for the job."
OP is right but the young folks who are hot headed won’t hear the wisdom. It is a small working world and anything you do may come back to bite you in the end. People remember, especially the one who used to work with you or you used to work for when they are asked at the company where you want to get hired if they know you.
sc––w you. This place has burned so many bridges with good people. So you're telling the rank and file not to burn bridges?! So this is a one way relationship?! I don't owe anyone s––t. Not even two weeks notice.
Rest assured that regardless of the circumstances of your departure, your manager and peers will care for possibly 5 minutes. That's how long you should care as well.
You aren't sticking it to anybody, life goes on and it's best to focus on your own needs. People in very senior positions have left and are leaving, and the bank marches on. Two or three days after they are gone, literally no one cares.
There are some bridges you don’t burn, and other bridges you DO burn to prevent yourself from ever making the same mistake again.
Op, how is getting a better position burning bridges? This happens in any company and its the best way to move up to the next level. Often where you are you are stuck and no options.
I see it as positive and you should too. Good people are happy for them, it is great some people have the courage to take safe risks and better them self and their lives. This is the first company I worked at that sees things backwards in such a manner.
I like it when people do stupid things. Makes it easier for the rest of us to get ahead.
Don’t believe everything people say here. Just words. Empty threats and rants.