Thread regarding Cenovus Energy layoffs

Play the long game

I'm a "legacy Husky" person and have a few observations about the new place so far. First, A LOT of what is said on this page is 100% true. It's really helped me understand what's happening and not get so unnerved by it, so thanks to everyone for sharing. So now I will share too.

No company is perfect but the big difference between Husky and Cenovus is arrogance. Like many say, don't believe how great we are, ask us. We'll tell you.

At least at Husky there was acknowledgement of the need for continuous improvement. It took a bunch of safety issues to get there but it did. In fact, identifying ways to improve was encouraged in my team. Complete opposite at Cenovus, so my #1 lesson is to be careful about trying to make something better or pointing out where a change could be made for improvement. The only exception is if you have a Husky person who has left where you can shift the blame.

Do not say anything if it could be seen as your deficiency or the deficiency of one of the proclaimed management "rising stars" or their favoured person or consultant. If you do this, you are finished. I saw it about five times. Don't even bring it up unless it's a safety situation. (I personally would rather lose my job than see someone get hurt.)

The underlying theme is that if you think differently from the golden Cenovus or especially a golden Cenovus person, you're not a "team player." As for High Reliability Organization principles, forget them all. Sometimes you gotta go along to get along. Even if they tell you 1+1=5, just nod and find a way to make it work.

Play the long game because once you're on the team you can start to play by their rules and you can start to decide who gets to stay and go based on how easy they make life for you and how much they stroke your ego. Director or VP in this place does not look like a bad gig if you can get it and once you do, stomp on anyone who tries to take it from you. Don't let them even get close if you're smart, and if they do, stomp fast and do it hard.

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A lot of what is written on this website is kinda garbage, but truthfully the “rising star” mentality at cenovus is something to be cautious of. A lot of the newly minted leadership have spent the majority of their career (at least the leadership positions) at legacy CVE. In case anyone hasn’t noticed, there is no formal technical or development programs at legacy CVE and the performance ranking is a joke. Basically you progress on who you know, how much visibility you have to upper leadership and being in the right place at the right time. So there is upper leadership I.e. “rising stars” and those they are mentoring that have made their way up with a shoot from the hip mentality and having had little accountability besides hitting the production or budget goals, while the underlying integrity and reliability of the assets suffers. Luckily western Canada assets aren’t very spicy, just basically some steam and a little H2S here and there. Just keep them away from any decision making capabilities on high risk assets like offshore or downstream and it will be ok. Curious if there are legacy husky persons who have figured this out yet or not. I bet some of the “run rate synergies” being cooked up have brought out some of the best “ideas” from the big dawgs at legacy CVE lol.

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Post ID: @1uuf+1ajrdDDL

Someone once told me that when you deal with a VP at Cenovus just assume they have psychotic tendencies until proven wrong.

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Post ID: @1mdw+1ajrdDDL

As a director, if someone disageed with you, regardless if they were correct, you would lay them off and find someone who was more of a team player.

CVE has taken the team player definition a little too far; more like the officer in charge of troops in the trench, when it's time to go over the top either follow what you are told or risk being put down but your own leader.

That is how it has always operated. Don't know a single person at the director level that isn't a bootlicker with an enormous ego. Sorry, but you don't get to that level in CVE without being a bit slimy.

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Post ID: @1mrk+1ajrdDDL

As a Director, if somebody agreed that 1+1=5, I would lay them off on the next round as I can find better people to support me and my team.

Also, stop generalizing on HSE vs CVE people. There is strong and weak on both sides. It’s easy to see these days.

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Post ID: @1qmc+1ajrdDDL

meant GOOD , not goof from my last comments. As you can see had a few wine today so apologies!

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Post ID: @txe+1ajrdDDL

Yes somewhat ok words..........however.....until someone actually gets hurt or worse..........I will tell you ( and for any of the younger folk on here) dont let anyone tell you 1+1 = 5... EVER. If 1+1 = 2 then thats what it is and if a CVE person was either standing beside me or above me in the chain of command tells me any different , up yours! I know a lot of goof CVE people not on payroll any more, they had my same attitude. Really too bad........some of your words above state the following; "Do not say anything if it could be seen as your deficiency or the deficiency of one of the proclaimed management "rising stars" or their favoured person or consultant. If you do this, you are finished"......my response to those specific words are that that attitude is a definate recipe for disaster - people......dont ever let that happen.!! Hope you catch my drift?

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