Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

The Clash “Should I Stay or Should I Go” ... enjoy classic music

On an earlier thread.. several asked for a repost of content paraphrased below:

For a career at the company , your performance vector has to be a net positive for 20 or 30 years. You can go up and down a bit around the middle bucket and be ok as long as you work hard and are diligent and a team player.

But if you drop and stay in lowest two buckets for more than two - four assessment cycles you should be concerned over perceptions of the perceived baggage you now carry as a perceived low relative performer longer term, as the unconscious bias of your rankers is very difficult to overcome.

With that backdrop, after the 2020 8-10 % mlrp program followed by 4q20 15 % voluntary and involuntary ; there is net exodus of roughly 23 - 25 percent of your peer / ranking group on gross average in many instances.

So... what this now means to you is...In 5 months from now in May 2021 there is probably to be rationally expected between another 3-10 % mlrp program on top of this reduction in 2020.

So the end result in June of 2021 is roughly 26 - 35 % of your peers in your current rank group are no longer present after next rank cycle in 2021. Probaby most of them that will have left the company populating the “ni” and “good” designated lower two quintiles.

So after May 2021 the ranking system and the math both requires any remaining ”goods” to become “ni” or “nsi” and many “very goods” have to either become “goods” and “ni” to make the math work on the forced rankings with quintile buckets still required.

Then fast forward and replay this into May 2022 - assume no layoffs but anything between a 3-10% mlrp process consistent with what happened this year.

If you think you are “very good” now you truly really are , but in the relative world of next rank cycles, on a relative ranking basis the “very goods” must have to mostly now become mostly “ni” and a some “goods” in just less than 18 months from now.

Math and forced rankings are hard to overcome the actual reality of how the game evolves for anyone ranked less than 50% because the usual 5-7 year progression of falling to lower quintile and outcome is now accelerated in the last year by the 23-25 % real reduction that occurred this year and another 3-10% that would potentially be exposed to mlrp and pip in May 2021.

It is brutal system when expressed mathematically.

Best of luck with all future endeavors.

Any current “very goods” please really note , you are now at best “ni” or “good” in lowest two quintiles right now today as we step into next ranking cycle.

Don’t get mad at your bosses when they tell you this, just say you are smart and understand math. Don’t make them uncomfortable personally because they also know and disagree with the math, but they can’t say they disagree with the math. It is what it is... no use being an a..hole when everyone knows math is math.

Have a financial plan already in play and always have other options in play. There is no long term loyalty so be the boss of your own destiny.

And you must unfortunately fully understand that when you drop into the bottom 25-30:percent there is really no recovery for you to have long-term career with the company.

It is sad to have to write this guidance. It was not like this 15 years ago.

Keep technical skills current and avoid going management track where most of your technical skills will become obsolete in 2-5 years.

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Post ID: @OP+18udlYy4

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Very insightful

Also, the mathematical process continues for the rest of your employment. Whether that is 5 Years, or 40!

Now that is some real thought provoking stuff!

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Post ID: @2bvw+18udlYy4

Management Track and Management Level employees at ExxonMobil at present are the ones with zero identified talent and no credibility. Once laid off they will have a hard time finding a job even as a used cars sales men/women.

Disgusting people

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Post ID: @1vru+18udlYy4

Old man, cash in your chips and settle down.

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Post ID: @1izg+18udlYy4

RE: The Management Track

Once in mgt track at EM for more than 3 years, as mentioned by OP, you are technically behind whatever your field. Most mgt track high-fliers were never technical to begin with - Narcissm Engineers.

Unfortunately, when the Mgt Track personnel find themselves in the employment market, it's basically going to be Real Estate or Used-Car Sales. Even the Private Prison systems are down-sizing.

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Post ID: @bvx+18udlYy4

Busiest and most info-laden thread in weeks on this board.

But - music classics was a mention.
Here's a set list from a retiree posted months ago - entire career covered.

About 30 min - some hilarious.
(Maggie's Farm always a goodie.)

early: penny to pound (Emp - ZZ Top just got paid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51cUfyBFVuY

bit later: under inspection (Emp - Nirvana something in the way)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7Mw9phRcsQ

climbing: spect out (Emp - Publc Image Ltd. disappointed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWTqfq72888

deeper in: on the stairs (Emp - Brian Eno dead finks)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmlC-9dDMk4

expertise obtained: belong gone (Emp - Wall of Voodoo they don't want me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXv0kfBLG9s

posteriori: so said - 2 ways (Emp - Dylan/Rage Against Machine maggie's farm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8yU8wk67gY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5ikkya2UPg

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Post ID: @nas+18udlYy4

Lee Raymond used to call our performance management/ ranking system a "distillation column." All you chemical engineers understand the internal cycling/flashing and condensing in a distillation column...but the bottoms always go out the bottom and the top ends rise to the top. Bottoms of the distillation column are lower value people. In upset mode (like today's market), sometimes heavy ends go out the top and light ends go out the bottom, but it eventually returns to steady state.

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Post ID: @htt+18udlYy4

@bgf+18udlYy4 The company has no idea how to do knowledge transfer. There were some attempts made in 2014/15 downturn as a way to keep people busy but as soon as oil prices rebounded slightly the efforts were forgotten. Add to this:

  • elimination of all training in 2019 and continuing indefinitely
  • elimination of education reimbursement
  • pushing out those over age 40
  • ranking system which incentivized people to not transfer knowledge to others

= #winningisnotwinning

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Post ID: @fdb+18udlYy4

OP has it mostly right except of some details. For example, lay-off and MLRP was around 20%, many voluntary retirements were very good or higher. So likely NSI and NI so mostly wiped out. Most remaining “goods” will find themselves NI although, as you know, the recent system can move other people there.
Also, I expect 5% NSI this cycle with 1/3 staying after PIP.
I disagree on advice regarding management track. There were some former managers gone but very few. Management protects itself. So if you are in EM and you want to stay, ask for management positions. But likely it will be easier to find a job outside if you stay technical.
Anyways, there are not many management positions since very few left AND because coming re-org will eliminate some. And managers in reorg studies will need a job too.
So don’t listen the BS of opportunities that will open up. There are extremely few.
Next 2-5 years will be tough.

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Post ID: @fon+18udlYy4

I understand the move to the BTC (i.e. they want people to leave), but it still has to be gradual to transfer knowledge. The accounting move to Argentina has been a disaster. All they do is call the people in Houston and ask for their work to be done for them. Ironically a high oil price now might be the worst thing for Exxon. Everyone I know who remained is looking for an exit.

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Post ID: @bgf+18udlYy4

To answer your question OP you should go. Staying is for s—ers.

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Post ID: @ctx+18udlYy4

Sadly many people will be surprised and unprepared when they are PIPd because they trust the ranking system.

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Post ID: @hme+18udlYy4

Why do you think all education reimbursement and training classes have been stopped? PIPs yearly is just the beginning. They know people will leave and will squeeze with no raises and benefit reductions to get people to quit. Gotta fill up those new BTC office buildings.

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Post ID: @fpy+18udlYy4

I used to wonder why so many in late 40s and 50s seemed so cynical and disillusioned with the company. Now I understand completely.

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Post ID: @srt+18udlYy4

Even people in 40s and 50s should look around and realize making it to retirement with this company will be an unfulfilling long hard slog at best and not happen in most cases. The golden handcuffs are only golden if you make it to the end. For most people they are more like a ball and chain keeping you from better opportunities. Get out while you still can.

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Post ID: @lwp+18udlYy4

My friends are calling it the #Exxodus A few of my friends were happy to be in the layoff and are now collecting double pay. Good things come to those who prepare and act rather than wait and be acted upon.

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Post ID: @gaz+18udlYy4

We are all applying for jobs here.. appears to be consistent across the organisation. Good luck all! Spend your WFH times wisely..

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Post ID: @jzi+18udlYy4

And those who aren’t fired will keep being assigned more and more work due to management’s unwillingness to cut process. Get ready go hear the same old BS line “we are the and company” as a justification to keep doing non value add work. Oh but cutting those hour long meetings to half an hour will surely save the dividend!

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Post ID: @fil+18udlYy4

Additionally if you are applying to new jobs while still employed you are in a position of strength when negotiating new job salary and benefits. Employers low ball offers to desperate unemployed people.

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Post ID: @uka+18udlYy4

Better to pick your own timing and leave. I’ve heard people say they know what companies they would apply to and have a plan as if they can guarantee those companies will be hiring for the roles they want and will pick them at the exact moment they apply. Job market is brutal so if you don’t plan your own exit you need to be stockpiling cash for the gap in employment. No severance with PIP and no health insurance.

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Post ID: @uob+18udlYy4

This is why I am applying for new jobs. I want to leave on my own timing without a gap in pay rather than being fired without a plan.

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Post ID: @yze+18udlYy4

Anyone who still doesn’t understand they are one rank cycle away from being fired is in denial. Can happen to anyone. You are just one poor ranking away. All it takes. Your past rankings mean nothing.

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Post ID: @tdq+18udlYy4

Not to mention the new hires will be brought into the ranking at the middle further forcing down those below 50% ranking.

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Post ID: @tli+18udlYy4

Understanding math is your friend. You aren’t “safe” in spite of what you are currently being told. They just want to get as much work out of you before they PIP you next go around and save the rmsrlved ghe expense associated with additional benefits provided to those laid off.

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Post ID: @svg+18udlYy4

Get ready to hear the worn out management speak of there being opportunities during times of change. #thehingergamesareabouttobegin

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Post ID: @tsp+18udlYy4

Company is counting on people leaving on their own for greener pastures or being forced out due to “low performance” and moving more jobs overseas to BTC.

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Post ID: @bls+18udlYy4

Finally someone else gets it. Thanks for posting OP. I’ve been trying to explain this to people. Usually I get blank stares and stupid comments like I’ve always done well so I’m not worried. #realitycheck #winteriscoming

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Post ID: @ler+18udlYy4

Same thing happened in past downturns as recent as 2014/15. Get ready for feedback you went down with some smoke and mirrors explanation of how it is a good outcome because most others went down more.

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Post ID: @xnc+18udlYy4

Everyone can kiss any hope of raises goodbye. When your ranking goes down the algorsays you are overpaid. Add to that benchmarking to the current economy and you are really overpaid.

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Post ID: @thx+18udlYy4

This is the problem with being in a failing company in a shrinking industry.

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Post ID: @rnj+18udlYy4

Watch how quickly people’s tune changes when they are the ones suddenly being told they are underperforming on a relative basis. People love the system when it works in their favor. The shoe is about to be on the other foot.

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Post ID: @riy+18udlYy4

Everyone still with EM needs to be aware of this and think through the implications. So many people in denial of what is coming with their head in the sand.

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Post ID: @ced+18udlYy4

Yes. Many people are in for a surprise because they haven’t done the math.

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Post ID: @ihw+18udlYy4

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