Aero - function anonymous.
In the last 48 hours heard about 3 talented comrades flat out quitting in search of Greener pastures.
Management using the the lash to get as much output from a rif reduced workforce without thought of available bandwidth.
Those with options are fleeing the high stress, no raise, rif threat environment for better opportunities.
Are you seeing this exodus in your department?6
Not true... 5 people from my group let go in the summer have hired back in! Honeywell is hiring like crazy!!
Why are YOU staying?
Talk about a captain obvious post. This post could have been made 5, 10, 15, 20 years ago. It will be applicable 5, 10, 15, 20 years from now.
There's not just talent Jumping from the ship, there has been huge amounts of talent torpedoed and ejected from the ship . . .
year after year after year
Same old Aero. Retired 8 years ago. Same old Aero.
So blessed to be part of the working from home shenanigans 3 years ago. Retired after 37 years and I was 59 yo. Great retirement and with SS (62) I'm making just about as much as when I slaved at Phx engine in PSC. Now living in another state (cheaper than Scottsdale) living the life.
Do it and never look back
@4ebr, you have articulated the plight of the Honeywell employee brilliantly. Thank you!
(below) - well said and spot on.
After this year there will be 3 groups left at Aero
1) VP’s who are waiting for/ already vested- until Wall Street recognizes we lack innovation and the cash generated has been primarily through legacy platforms and financial engineering. Once their options are worthless they too will leave.
2) People who have the old retirement plans and are 5 or so years from retirement.
3) New grads who don’t know better and who are building their resumes and skills. They wont last long, they already don’t, and with more retirements and a stronger labor market they will quickly move on.
Why would anyone want to stay where they are constantly overworked, and under resourced? Everyone knows there is no light at the end of the tunnel anymore, this company will eke out another 10 years based on legacy systems, until it is sold off. When your customers and your employees hate you- then you know for sure what kind of future it is you shaped.
Poor raises when we get them- even after banner years. 401k shenanigans that benefit the company more than the employees, terrible healthcare costs, terrible vacation policy, getting 10% or more of pay axed every time we don’t make a quarter, and the constant stress that comes from an echo chamber management structure where fear rules and the consequences of cutting our way to profits over a decade has come home to roost. Oh, almost forgot the axe that hangs over all our heads, regardless of performance.
We have one life to live, one career to manage, and there are far better places to do both than Honeywell.
The difference is the balance tips over and whole thing crashes. Are there still al lot of healthy funtioning groups left?
So what's new? This has been going on for 3 years.
Haven’t heard, what departments?
End of Feb is MIP payout, I don't expect it to be much.
“PMT 54 put in for the VRIF and they were looking for 25 to do so”
Wow
PMT 54 put in for the VRIF and they were looking for 25 to do so. So they got more than they wanted what does this show us about this job of ours. People so want to jump ship and go.
"Mass exodus after 2/26"
What is the significance of the 2/26 date?
Mass exodus after 2/26
Many of the best have left the aerospace and defence industry altogether. It used to be prestigious and stable "back in day", but thanks to outfits like Honeywagon, it is strictly for the optionless now.
Watched 2 others leave before I left....so, yes.
Happens in Aero every year at this time.
People hung in there for their holiday / shutdown pay and then bailed.
Not going to stay another 11 and a half months for the 401k match.
Anybody with a clue can get a better paying gig with better benefits and better work/life balance. Honeywell is uber proud of its "extreme work culture" as MM puts it. In other words Honeywell is not for the faint of heart. Expect to be available 80+ hrs a week and the constant uh, yeah, we're gonna need you to come in Saturday and uh yeah Sunday too..... Ok
Nope. Pasture is empty and all the cows and pigs that didnt escape when off in a truck .
I hear the the new pasture is a long way off and has no cows.