Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Delete URC/ RTD, CSR and any other stupid research initiatives which are useless.

Yes, it has been spoken of many times but it needs to be brought up again. When you get called by your supervisors during this anxiety filled period, ask them this question - how have these research folks added any value to the corporation and why are they not bein laid off in bulk? What have they done other than make a fool of themselves and our company?

There are so many things which cannot be missed unless management is complicit. For example, all internally developed ‘technology’ is a waste of money. Late to the game, barely copying older stuff from competitors and terribly old by the time it gets ready and the cycle starts again.

A shame, how do these research folks look at themselves in the mirror everyday? Yes we are pretenders and raising your voice against it is not allowed in the sick and toxic WE ARE EXXONMOBIL culture. But now is not the time to pretend, your jobs, your honor and integrity are on the line.

In upstream research, a great example is the internally developed reservoir simulator called IRMS which tooks years to build and millions of dollars each year plus dozens of staff to maintain, only to now realise after years that it s—s and is worse than any commercially available software in the market. And the people of remain in these teams have no option but to promote this piece of non-sense to keep their job. And these are the lowly URC folks who if questioned on their stupidity, will run to their mom and paps (aka disgusting supervisors and managers) in their organisation, screaming for help. And there are many more of these useless efforts which can be named, which are sold and promoted everyday. In fact call any of your RTD friend and ask them what and why are they doing what they are doing, you’ll be suprised at the non-sense BS you will get told. You will be horrified on how this useless organsiation drains the money from our corporation.

Another example is in our corporate research, our golden algae miracle, think about it only Exxon finds it an exciting prospect in the whole world? Look at the people and culture around you, can innovation exist in this place at all? Look at the ‘leaders’, name one that inspires and motivated you to be like them some day. There is none most probably, even there are are few they have had to sell their souls to agree and be yes men/women to the expressionless ‘high potential’ robots with no life skills other than being brutal liars. Again, reach out to anyone, and if you find they are working on something productive, post it here. I am certain they are not by any means other than promoting lies.

Yes it hurts to be in this organisation which I joined thinking its the best in the world and a career for life. Rather it feels like I am being punished for being so naive. Posting in this forum helps to release some of this anxiety our ‘leaders’ have brought onto us in the most unprofessional layoffs ever. I hope they suffer for their actions, karma will come and bite them in some form or another.

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Post ID: @OP+17UfjU8J

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Yes there are numerous of these data fudging lying folks, who just survive by BS collaborations for high school level projects. To the ignorant post below, there are dozens of service providers whose job is to develop and support these software and they do it much better than us. So its better to have our phDs do something meaningful rather than lying. If there is nothing to do then don’t hire them. But it all comes down to management who are too blind to understand the basic things and get rewarded to pretend its some high level ‘technology’. You are a joke URC and pretty sure most of you realise that and it may not be your fault after all.

Exxon’s amazing managers pat eachothers back to create their own ‘technology’, then fix it for years, and then sell it off as proprietary when its really a poor copy. Unfortunately once its identified it s—s, the people are moved internally to ruin another team or country with their ‘culture’. They don’t know the first thing about oil and gas but hold phDs in holding hand rails.

The new phDs come in and repeat the cycle, and with very high ego and confidence, which is understandable. They have never stepped outside of their office to learn what others do and keep up with technology. Because our culture rewards in breeding and saying that we are the best, without anyone questioning it. Everyone involved in these projects has just milked the company either in a very disgusting manner or they are simply unaware of reality.

And there are more projects like these like irms, everywhere in RTD and Digital. Agree with OP, call and ask them what they are doing, question their value add and watch them squirm.

Also to the post saying this is blaming other etc., this is fact checking buddy and getting to the bottom of the problem. THIS is why we got here - you get questioned, you say its blaming? Thats exactly whats going on in our elections as well. You need to face brutal truths, accept your faults, man up and deal with things.

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Post ID: @1eeb+17UfjU8J

Million dollar question.... Is ExxonMobil capable of identifying and firing some of the following:

"Many" data fudging, incompetent fraudster employees of RTD who managed to become team leads and pathetic supervisors only by virtue of shameless management a55 kissing.
Ph.D. hired research employees who operated under the radar to produce nothing useful while slowly draining the company with unnecessary frequent international travels, forcing themselves to expat assignments, and moving onto projects and XTO inspire of being worthless at RTD
All the sinister scamsters floating between CSR and RTD who overly use and abuse the title "Advisor
Despicable managers, VPs and Presidents in the past
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Post ID: @1iky+17UfjU8J

You research-hating oil-boilers have an incredible volume of writing words in your minds!

Ever thought of novel-writing?
That's where the money is at.

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Post ID: @gmw+17UfjU8J

Anonymously bombing your colleagues will not save your non-research job. #themoreyouknow

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Post ID: @jzs+17UfjU8J

Remember when Schuessler (a real, live oil man from Texas) became president of URC? He wanted every URC project valued. According to him, URC was delivering billions in value. My recollection is that everybody knew the valuation was a scam except him.

The few "valuations" I sat in went something like this:
URC person: I don't think this project is worth anything.
Valuation person: The business wants this. It must be worth something.
URC person: You haven't factored in the fact that there is zero chance of success.
Valuation person: I'm thinking 500 million is about right.

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Post ID: @cbp+17UfjU8J

It’s all Monopoly money.

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Post ID: @apx+17UfjU8J

I used to work at URC. Half the problem with technology is uptake in the business. I developed several things that have the BUs opportunity to save Beaucoup Dollars but the spineless Ops managers wouldn't take the risk to adopt new tech.

Problem is mutli directional.

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Post ID: @qdy+17UfjU8J

I don't think anyone believes that Willy the rig hand broke out his Fortran77 compiler and wrote CMG back in the 80s. XOM doesn't have folks trying to develop a better Excel, buy the simulator off the shelf. Then have folks who understand the reservoir run the simulations, come up with distributions of possibilities, peer review the work, move on.

And yeah, whoopdeedoo, I have a PhD also. Comes in very handy when discussing computational geophysics at parties, otherwise it says f— all.

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Post ID: @oqb+17UfjU8J

I used to work in RTD and believe me, I felt just as useless and helpless against the system of perverse incentives that valued stupid projects at billions and really good, tractable improvements at zero. Couldn't wait to get out of there.

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Post ID: @sde+17UfjU8J

This thread is so silly that it’s getting comical. IRMS may not be better than commercially available software but did the “commercial software “ grow on trees? Or were the “commercial software “ written by high school graduates working on rigs? I guess not. Sorry to break the truth to you but those commercial software you spoke so highly of were generated by the same highly educated phds from the same schools that RTD phds went to. Hell, we probably hired the better ones. The only difference is their phds were trusted and allowed to innovate and try things and their field operation folks are willing to listen and try different things. This thread perfectly demonstrates how sick the company culture has become and explains why xom is falling behind competitors in almost all critical technical area. Never mind, #weareexxonmobil and we just need to do the same thing and never need to learn

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Post ID: @cjy+17UfjU8J

Waste from downstream side isn’t any less. EMRE, if it were a separate company, will not survive for long outside of EM.

Research work on 80-year old technologies, armies of engineers to support the refineries that should take care of themselves - one truly wonders, how on earth the company makes any money at all!

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Post ID: @ywl+17UfjU8J

Anyone remember the well intervention / stimulation vessel that EM was designing? Another Research non core science project. They finally shelved it. (If JM is reading this site he would have a better understanding than I).

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Post ID: @yfq+17UfjU8J

On some level, the current state of XOM is reassuring, at least for me. I like things to make sense. Almost nothing I see at XOM makes sense, and hasn't for years. I'm sure there are many many other employees who would also look around and think "how the hell does this place make money?"

Well, it turns out that it really doesn't. That's the punchline. When push comes to shove, all of the stupid stuff you see that is obviously stupid actually adds up. So at least we can all say "I told you so" before we get swept up in the dumpster fire.

And yes, OP, my experience with Upstream research and simulation was a disaster. Garbage in, garbage out. With simulations being run by over-educated under-experienced tourists outside the business units who had no clue about what they were doing. It's the old Reagan adage, the scariest words in the XOM language are "I'm with URC and I'm here to help".

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Post ID: @ztm+17UfjU8J

I agree, challenge any work they do and you get embarassing answers. To be honest, I have not come across one truly net positive value effort. The BILLIONs they promise to save have no basis to verify and they forget about the millions of dollars of staffing phDs for these meaningless efforts. Nothing against phDs, in fact they are just stuck in a place where they are not needed. If the rock has oil it will produce oil, most lab experiments end up remaining just that because of operations constraints. This is the very reason for EM’s ego that we can turn around any asset with our technology and army of useless phDs. Ahem, Kearl, ahem, Permian. Money drained in unecessary research, not everything can be fixed with research organisations, especially not the ones that value holding hand rails than holding pen and paper to think FOR ONCE. Lies after lies and we all show eachother our wonderful shiny c-ap work and pat ourselves on the back. Look outside fools, the world is laughing at us. And the VPs that talk about Technology Strategy and disappear, shame on you too of course. Stop promoting sycophants who tell you your work is the best in the world. If it was you won’t have to hide behind lies and safety sharings to justify your value. Give us examples of value add, with some basis not random stuff which is presented on internal forums, ahem, INNOVATE.

I don’t know if all this gets overlooked because higher management is not concerned with Upstream anymore, because the CEO is downstream?

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Post ID: @hhz+17UfjU8J

Include EMRE in the list as well please. Thanks.

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Post ID: @sga+17UfjU8J

OP, well laid-out and reasoned. The examples you outlined really drove home your point. For some at EM this would be out of the box thinking.

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Post ID: @aps+17UfjU8J

OP: I agree with you. I worked with RTD and these are my observations:

  1. Employees are only capable of making power point slides and bullets for fake highlights of accomplishments
  2. Submitting meaningless safety sharings all day long
  3. Management is utterly incompetent and yet employees are constantly suking up to them
  4. Many in good times were Olympic quality International travelers to exotic places for frivolous causes
  5. Employees below the age of 52 are completely incapable of technical accomplishments. All they do is to create grand illusions and start JIPs so they can just show up at meetings and have nothing to do
  6. Younger employees are so stupid and brainwashed that if you show them a 100 billion dollar idea and if that doesn't affect their yearly performance assessment, they will overlook the idea (100% true with several examples that I have seen, Offshore, Drilling and Subsurface, Reservoir, Computational functions were some places that had some of the most corrupt employees) and will rather go spend their time talking about holding handrails in the meetings as it gets noticed by their supervisor and manager
  • I can keep on going
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