Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

Why is there no clear answer on this after all this time? Seems the consensus is towards we can file as soon as we get the lump sum for the following period?

Also, I noticed that TX max unemployment per week is higher than most states. Does anyone know what happens if you move to another state? I know the other state takes over the payments, but do they pay the TX rate or their own rate?

If you went to an office you are quite stupid. It is all online.

I applied about 6 weeks ago, and am still waiting for approval. I answered all of the questions correctly. Guess some offices have a backlog.

I applied two days ago and it was approved today. Chevron has to approve it since they pay for it. I didn’t notice any question about severance. Easy money.

I'm pretty sure the troll they were referring to is you, @7rku, not some imaginary figure living rent free in your head.

Popcorn Boy has been famous on here for years. He pops up from t8me to time to spout the same nonsense about how when he was fired in 2016 it so discombulated him that he took the annuity after some flunkie advisor told him it was a great deal. He is like a ghost haunting this board hoping to get others to make the same collosal f8nancial error.

whats with the loser troll on here who calls everyone "popcorn boy" on every thread
i guess if your left standing these days there's not much else left in your life but to troll the layoff.com and insult folks meaning you lost the argument

Wroooong, @7mga. I live in the Past, Present and Future. Don’t take it that in literal terms, as simpletons often do. I live by learning from the PAST, including my experiences, live in the PRESENT by keeping up with current events, societal norms and advancing my knowledge, and I live with in the FUTURE by preparing wisely for the expected and unexpected. Meanwhile, your remark doesn’t speak too highly of your disposition in life.

You are living in the past, Popcorn boy. Move on.

Back in 2016, I submitted my Texas Unemployment Benefits claim online. Don’t make the mistake of going in person to a TWC office, although I’m not sure how that’s being handled during this Covid protocol period. Online is quick and easy. You decide how you want to answer the questions. When it came to the question about severance, I answered “No”, indicating I had not received a severance. My answer was technically correct and truthful at the time I answered the question, because I had not yet returned my signed waiver documents to Chevron legal. My TWC benefits application was accepted and about two Fridays later, I got my first payment direct deposited to my bank account. Believe me when I tell you the Texas Workforce Commission is over burdened and understaffed. They don’t have much time or inclination to validate everything they have to process.

There was a guy here in Houston who submitted his Unemployment form and it was rejected because he had put Chevron as his last very recent employer and "no severance". The rejection issue was that all Chevron personnel recently laid off or EOI have a severance, from what I understand, and any other answer is incorrect or suspicious. Apparently they have caught on to this. Just a heads up.

Sounds like a good deal, @1zng that's how I will fill out the form also, maybe I'll get lucky too! I am not in Texas either, and many of us are not. Why do the examples keep harping on the Texas employees? Get over yourselves, houstonians, the world doesn't revolve around you, you know.

Same for me - only they are paying me triple benefits! Amazing.

I just started receiving my unemployment payments and I followed the rules as written, put down that I had received a severance and there was a short waiting period due to the severance, as posted below, I had no problem with that. But they must have made some kind of mistake because the payments that I am getting are Double what I am supposed to get as one earner, and with my salary, that's double the maximum. I have no idea how that happened, but I am not complaining. I'm not bringing it up if they don't. Anyway, good luck to all of you waiting for the news. I heard there are some jobs popping up here and there if you need one. Look outside of oil/gas, if you are serious and need a job.

If you ask the lady about severance, her answer is correct. But Chevron is not paying severance (under Texas definitions) - they are offering a payment in return for legal indemnity. You are 100% free to apply for Texas UI benefits as you have no severance from Chevron, per their definition. I suspect you arguing out of sour grapes as you didn't get any UI!

From what I was told from the Texas unemployment office, you need to include your severance from Chevron, on the form when you apply. There's no question about it. And it does not affect your ability to receive benefits but there may be a waiting period. She said she answers several calls a day on that, lol.

Ouch! Someone is triggered. Why are you posting about trolling and living in a cave, @1hkj? Seems like it may be something that you are familiar with, unlike the rest of us concerned about layoffs who have to work for a living. Perhaps you need to venture out of yours sometime, or mommie's basement, more likely.

Duma$$s. Just read the rules. The lump sum payout is not severance and you can LEGALLY apply for unemployment the day after you are off payroll. You might want to use your payout to buy a clue! What a bunch of uneducated mo–ns!

Yea, maybe I should try READING the document before making a comment on it. LMAO!

3 wks pay for every year worked ... Thought it was only 2 wks/yr. Need to check the docs again.

@uzo, That is correct. 100% spot on. No one is being "denied" UI benefits. You just cannot double-dip. That seems fair to me. Anyone have a problem with that? Pathetic adolescent Trolls advocating Unemployment insurance fraud need not respond.

Can you revoke an EOI? Anyone ever done it?

There are lots of fool here. If you ask the wrong question you will get the wrong answer. Chevron is not paying severance as defined in Texas (and probably elsewhere, but I can not be sure). It is a lump payment, period, for signing your exit papers. Do whatever you wish, but there is no reason to lie about it to sign up for unemployment the day after you are off payroll. I hate to be the one to tell you, but a 1/2 year of unemployment does not add up to much relative to the salary most of us were making. Also if you can’t find 3 HR departments to file your resume with once a month (or even week) then you too stupid to qualify for anything but disability!

Wrong. The severance referred to on the UI form is what Chevron is providing. Some idi0t on here mentioned he checked that he wasn't "receiving severance" box and had problems and ended up having to pay back all of his UI benefits and a fine on top of that, about 4 times as much as he received. Haha.

Correct. The severance referred to on the UI form is not what Chevron is providing. Some id–t on here mentioned he checked the "receiving severance" box and had problems. Haha.

I did it from a different company in 2016. Got a lump sump severance payment and then technically was no longer employed. At that point I was eligible for unemployments. When they say severance they mean receiving a severance over an extended period, not a lump sum payment. After your lump sump, you no longer have an income, thus eligible for UI. However, be aware that you are required to conduct at least 3 job searches and document them to remain eligible.

I am thinking about lying on the form and claiming that I am not getting a severance. To heck with it. If I get caught, I get caught. I only know one guy who has ever gotten caught, he was laid off from chevron in 2015. They made him pay back all of the severance and a fine, it was about $2000 I think. Who cares, I don't mind living on the edge. I have to pay the notes on my trailer. What are the odds, one in a million?

If you call them and ask about "severance" you will get the wrong answer.

Go ahead and wait if it makes you feel better. Everybody else claims as soon as they are off the payroll.

Pulled the trigger in accelerated EOI back in May and now just waiting for severance (E.g calculation) benefit to run out. Hopefully, it will be time right for the next stimulus round is approved.

I called them also and I got basically the same response. I really don't know what the big deal is. No one is being denied unemployment benefits. It's just a matter of when you become eligible.

After reading these threads it is clear that no one here actually knows what the answer is, and many are reaching, making up BS, hence being on "the layoffs.com". I contacted the Unemployment office here in Houston and they reiterated basically what @ahv and others have stated. You cannot collect a severance and Unemployment benefits at the same time, the severance needs to "run out". You can pretend to dig up all the imaginary fine print and legal hocus pocus that you want, there is no magical definition of severance in Texas and you are still bound by the rules of the Unemployment office and subject to their fines and penalties if you don't comply. Do what you wish, I will follow their guidelines.
Good luck to everyone!

By tying the payment to a waiver release, it no longer meets the Texas definition of severance. Under Texas law, severance is an unconditional written contract for pay which the state can force the employer to pay to you. This is NOT the case as 1) none of us had this severance in our contract it instead been voluntarily offered by Chevron just recently and 2) Chevron is tying it to the waiver signature. It is a Conditional payment, not a guaranteed one. We should not be calling it severance as that seems to confuse people. Let's call it Legal Payoff.

Sure, that is correct. There is nothing illegal about applying at any time. It's when you lie on the form is when you are committing Unemployment Insurance fraud. And that note is correct, the severance does not change your benefits. It also does not have anything to do with the timing of benefits:
"Severance pay is a sum of money an employee is eligible to receive upon job separation. ... Texas law prohibits individuals from qualifying for unemployment benefits while receiving severance pay"

If you are too stupid to read it yourself, here it is from the Texas Workforce Commission-
“ an incentive paid to obtain a release or waiver of liability from the departing employee with regard to the Civil Rights Act of 1991... a payment like that WILL NOT affect unemployment benefits.”

Thus, there is nothing illegal about applying immediately in Texas.

As much as people posting would like to mislead you, there really is no ambiguity here. No, you cannot LEGALLY receive severance and UI benefits simultaneously. All the information is there on the website as well as over the phone if you call them. All it really amounts to(legally) is a short period of time after you receive your severance until they declare you entitled for UI benefits. No big deal. That time is up to the specific state, UI office, etc. For me it was very short. several weeks. Sure, some employees have gotten away with lying on the form by putting down that they have no severance (received in the past, now or future). UI benefits fraud is a crime, and that includes doing exactly that, i.e. stating that you have no severance regardless of whether it is before, after, or at the exact time you fill out the form, makes no difference, it's crystal clear. Lie on the form at your own risk. It only saves you a few weeks or months delay and your total benefits remain the same. I don't get the reason why anyone would lie on the form, committing a crime just for that advantage of not having a minor delay. Now on this site they will argue ad nauseam that it;s not a crime, blah blah blah, you can check for yourself and confirm that, or believe what you read here.

In my case I am receiving a 1099 from another source, so I won't be able to collect UB , no matter. at least I'm helping reduce my states debts

In Texas, yes. If you received 18 weeks severance, unemployment will be denied until after the 18 weeks.

Don’t trust what worked years ago. I know NBL people who had to go through lengthy appeals on this matter this year. Read the details of the wording of the application and law very carefully.

I am not an attorney, I recommend to consult one to review your agreement and n’employant application.
My personal opinion, As I read the law, if you are required to sign a waiver to not sue in order to receive payment, and if you might have sued based on age, gender, any other equal rights violation, then the payment does not disqualify for benefits.

https://www.twc.texas.gov/news/efte/final_pay_severance_benefits.html

3a. “an incentive paid to obtain a release or waiver of liability from the departing employee with regard to the Civil Rights Act of 1991, “