It’s a sensitive topic that needs to be openly discussed: prioritizing promotions based on race. As a white male I’m not going to sit here and claim that my life was harder growing up than my black colleagues because it likely wasn’t. I won’t claim i fully understand what my black colleagues have gone through, I know I can’t and likely won’t ever fully understand the barriers they had to overcome to get where they are. That being said it should be the accomplishments we work hard for and achieve that should afford us the opportunity to advance. This means looking at an individuals contributions to the business, not their life experience or even their education. How did they impact the performance of their team, department, organization, and company. Prioritizing promotions because of race will only serve to continue to divide different racial groups. What are your thoughts?
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"So Diversity Czar how many successful non-minority discrimination lawsuits have been successful??? Everyone is equal but some people are more equal. "
The laws are still laws and they (should) work both ways - I prefer a legal resolution which can serve as a model for generations to come. The majority is at a crossroads now because too many wrong assumptions have been made (one of them is: minorities deserve more simply because they are minorities). Let's challenge these assumptions, but let's do it by the book, in a civilized framework.
I'd like to know where actual real-life promotions are happening in this toxic poisonous company. I do not think that it's a new thing in AT&T in having race-based decision making, being the abhorrent racist that our top leadership is all about. It started with Randall Stephenson, and has gone on a long time, will continue to go on for what seems to be ever more. Our competitors, Verizon, T-Mo/Sprint, and even overseas telecom competitors absolutely do not waste their time and money on all this absolute nonsense. This is yet another smoke screen. Look for what they are hiding, what they are really doing behind the scenes. This is also more writing on the wall for 50+ years of age, 25 years + of service, have met MR75, especially if you're white, and a male, maybe this is what they are hiding with the smoke, for you to get out of this cesspool now, run, and don't look back. Look to our competitors for new employment, you'll be welcomed with open arms.
Promotions weren't an issue in ATO - because they didn't happen.
Everyone wins! /s
To the OP, count your blessings that you’ve been passed over. When you get promoted you get a raise, 10% above your current pay rate. If you are not at top pay you’re not being compensated. Then you take on more responsibility and 10x more stress. You can be expected to be on call 24/7 but not get comp time. Your end of year pay raise is subjective. No guarantees. I’ve gotten 10% end of year raise and also a big fat ZERO. I’ve heard of people getting less than 1% year after year only because of strength of other team members. Your boss b only gets so much money to share with his team. If someone continues to do great work and they want to reward them, that means someone will get less to increase the walk on water percentage. Most managers that look to add to their team look for loyalty, knowledge and people that don’t need a lot of direction. If you’re knowledgeable but are abrasive you probably won’t get promoted. Be careful of what you wish for. Very few that I know that was promoted think it was a good decision. In the old days skin color mattered, in the last 20yrs I haven’t seen discrimination like that.
Sigh–another racist thread... Can't believe all the ppl who blame ppl who look different from them for their own self-inflicted misery.
@lzv+16uOgaJv I’m OP and currently in an Assoc Director position. I’m happy where I’m at just feel bad for others who get passed up for opportunities because they don’t match a certain skin color.
The same incompetence will be a prized trait for anyone getting promoted at AT&T, it's just that now the incompetence will come in different shades of brown.
To the OP, what's your excuse for not getting promoted before this whole diversity push?
No one cares what your race is, they just never liked you as a person, they don't need an excuse like skin color to pass you on a promotion.
We had many techs in my 4 decades who didn't know which way to turn a can wrench.
The company was far far more tolerant of minority techs not being able to do the job than white techs.
That's a fact.
Are we now just fabricating stories about minorities being promoted over others? Please.
So Diversity Czar how many successful non-minority discrimination lawsuits have been successful??? Everyone is equal but some people are more equal.
It's one thing to over-index on minorities regarding new hires but it is wrong to proactively replace long term non-minority employees when it is not even legally mandated. The combination of widespread discrimination against long term non-minority employees and foreign outsourcing will never solve the growing tension and dissension.
It's great for AT&T leadership - they get both lower-cost labor and virtue signaling at the same time. There is just no clear legal mandate for what they are doing.
Affirmative Action has been around for decades and if it didn't help promote people of color based solely on their race then, what makes them think this WOKE movement is going to change anything? They have to want a position and should have to work for it, no handouts in life! I'm born and raised white middle class, both parents worked to provide me an education, grammar school and high school. I put my self through a 4 year university finishing with a B.A. and then 2 years of tech school finishing with an A.A.. I did it because I wanted it! It paid off! Nobody handed it to me! I worked full time while attending school which isn't easy to do long before online schooling was even a thought! The bottom line is, I had to work hard for my job just like EVERYBODY else should have to do in life!
Facts are people of all races and gender have been promoted for loyalty ( kiss 💋 asses, College Alumni etc )as you stated
Look at Linkeden as how they all OOOH AND AHHH
HOW GREAT They All Are
Sad insecure people running this company
If you are not ...yet..
get used to it..
Now I guess you can feel how employees of color felt all those years when they were passed over for a promotion. I hope ATT won't make the same mistakes they made many years back and promote blacks based on their "loyalty" but rather on the true skills it takes to manage. We certainly have seen enough white folks promoted for the wrong reason.
Can you imagine the lack of respect you would have when you got your title based on racist company practices? I can hear this new leader say: I need you guys to work hard, overtime, and get extensive training while I attend ERG conferences. I could be wrong, but I don't see that working out so well.
Any kind of discrimination (including for promotions) based on race, gender, age, s-xual orientation, national origin, etc. is illegal, if the company is engaging in such practices it exposes itself to legal action.
https://www.upcounsel.com/discrimination-laws
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