Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

@6auz+13XYWpEM - late to roll out testing? We don't have tests to roll out! Testing is rationed to those who are showing symptoms ( I know, right?).

Don't say we're late to roll out testing that we don't even have to roll out. If we had the tests, we wouldn't be in this mess.

You know what the real issue is with Americans? They think they are invincible, that Covid is just a flu and ‘they’ are prepared, coz DJT said so..so let’s have springbreak, mardi grass, gatherings etc.
Coming from the old continent I can promise you, the worst is yet to come. In two weeks, you will face challenges like never seen before. Be wise, be safe and stay the F at home! All the best, peace

“The government has been very, very late to roll out testing. Tests were available from the WHO immediately, but the government did not avail themselves of them. Recently, you can see why that is, because a big pharmaceutical company wants to patent the test themselves. While people in the U.S. are getting sick, the people at the top who are in charge are working to see how much money they can make off of it.“

Time will tell if -this- will be the worst political scandal of all the past four years of scandals and WTFs. So many death sentences were handed down with that evil and greedy and cynical decision. If this is the death knell for “For Profit” healthcare, it will be worth it. With a terrible price.

Sorry, I've got the population wrong. About 340 million it should have been. 1/3 is 113 million. 10% of that is 11 million and 2% is 2.3 million.

Just to clarify. Some of the advice on here is just wrong.

With coronavirus, the old ideas do not apply. The idea that if you know you are sick, just stay home, will not help. There are some unique features to this virus you should be aware of:

• You can have the virus for up to two weeks BEFORE you show any symptoms AND you will be contagious, even though you have no symptoms. That means you can walk around for 2 weeks spreading the virus to others without knowing you have it.

• The virus is more easily transmitted than the common flu. It's about 2 1/2 times more transmissible than the flu. You are more likely to catch it.

• The death rate is something like 2% which is 20 times the death rate of the common flu.

• The virus attacks cells in the lungs causing respiratory distress. This is more of a problem with older people and people who have other heart or lung conditions. However, there are younger people who can be severely affected also. Genetics may play a part in who it attacks most strongly.

• 40% of the people who recover will have permanent lung damage.

• 10-20% of the people who have the virus will need to be hospitalized. The 2% death rate assumes that they can receive treatment.

• The virus completely new to the earth. No one has any built up immunity to it. I know a doctor who works in ICU and he predicts that at least 70% of us will get it.

• The government has been very, very late to roll out testing. Tests were available from the WHO immediately, but the government did not avail themselves of them. Recently, you can see why that is, because a big pharmaceutical company wants to patent the test themselves. While people in the U.S. are getting sick, the people at the top who are in charge are working to see how much money they can make off of it.

• Hospital treatment relies on ventilators, ($100K per). The U.S. has about 70K of these machines.

• The U.S. population is something like 440 million. The 1918 flu was caught by about 1/3 of the population. 1/3 of 440 million is about 150 million people. 10% of that is 15 million who might need to be hospitalized. 2% is 3 million people.

Since, we can spread the virus BEFORE we have any symptoms, it is extremely important to not walk around or go to any large gathering of people. This is why the country is going into lockdown mode.

There are only 70,000 or so ventilators. If there are huge waves of millions of people who need hospitalization, that is a serious, serious problem. There are also only about 1 million hospital beds in the country. We have to make sure that we do not overwhelm the hospital system.

In addition, even if you never get the virus. Imagine not being able to get into the hospital if you are in a car accident, or you are having a heart attack. This affects us all and we all need to take it very, very seriously.

With the ability of this virus to spread BEFORE you have any symptoms, there is a serious problem of overwhelming the hospitals. If that happens, the medical people in this country will have to ration ventilators. The government, should be building temporary hospitals using the army corp of engineers. Governor Cuomo of NY has been pointing that out.

This is NOT a joke. I know this is not the normal type of post for this site, but I hope the moderators will allow this post to stay. It is extremely important to all of us that everyone be aware of what is going on.

I am no cloud genius but neither are you or you would not be here posting

Oracle is getting the canons out to scare the virus away. Just like New Orleans and the "yellow Jack" back in the 1800s, worked then it will work now. Do not be scared in the Bay Area when you hear the explosions, it will be similar to Fourth of July fireworks only louder.

Oh puleeze. If you are touting yourself as a big player in the cloud wars, it’s just assumed you have this capability. No self respecting techie, sales manager, PM, or any professional worth their salt would ever join or stay with an org who doesn’t.

Just assumed? I worked for Oracle for 15 years in a technical role, I do not now. Yes I used their internal tools, yes they worked well. Unless you need to be present, you can work effectively remotely. You also need to learn to read because everything I stated was in the past tense. I left on my own. I have no reason to lie, shill for Oracle or bash them out of reflex. Why did I leave? The list isn't long enough for the reasons why but I have moved on and I have no regrets or ill will.

This is very good advice. However I want to point out that scarlet fever is completely curable with antibiotics. It is basically strep throat with a rash. Just FYI.

True but 100 years ago it wasn't. That was my point. We had some very serious diseases years ago and nobody went nuts as they are doing now. Which is not to say take it lightly, but also don't buy 6 years worth of TP and some of the other id–tic things that are going on.

”Oracle's remote tools were one of the things I think they did very well It got to where all I needed was a laptop or even a tablet, a cell phone and an internet connection and I could work anywhere with no disruption.”

Oh puleeze. If you are touting yourself as a big player in the cloud wars, it’s just assumed you have this capability. No self respecting techie, sales manager, PM, or any professional worth their salt would ever join or stay with an org who doesn’t.

RE: Just use your head people. If you are sick, stay home. Wash your hands, clean your work surfaces, eat healthy get your rest and stay hydrated. Yes this is a potentially serious illness, especially if you are older or have existing health issues, but it is not the plague, polio or scarlet fever. Just practice good hygiene and don't panic.

This is very good advice. However I want to point out that scarlet fever is completely curable with antibiotics. It is basically strep throat with a rash. Just FYI.

As noted by a previous post, oracle sent an email out instructing everyone to work from home if they were not considered critical personnel.

It was sent over the weekend. When the majority of the work force is not checking their email. This pretty much sums up Oracle’s clueless management style.

Oracle's remote tools were one of the things I think they did very well It got to where all I needed was a laptop or even a tablet, a cell phone and an internet connection and I could work anywhere with no disruption. However, There are people who HAVE to come in like people who QA hardware, lab managers and data center employees. I can ding Oracle with the best of them, But Give credit where credit is due and at least try to be fair.

@2uey+13XYWpEM
The irony, it burns

It’s an open site for anyone to say whatever....oh never mind

Oracle officially sent the email out encouraging employees to work from home.

The level of sheer BS on this site is almost as toxic as Covid-19. Oracle have openly communicated internally that if you can work for home do so, if you are worried about coming into work, don’t. Too many ex employees that clearly have a bee in their bonnet about an ex employer and trying to use Coronavirus to draw others into their sad angry little world

I’m not pretending to be anything. It’s just what I heard in the last several years after leaving O, and talking to former colleagues.

I'm ex IBM. When someone asks a question about policies on the IBM page of this board, I let people who actually work at IBM answer the question, as opposed the repeating outdated info or hearsay,

Just use your head people. If you are sick, stay home. Wash your hands, clean your work surfaces, eat healthy get your rest and stay hydrated. Yes this is a potentially serious illness, especially if you are older or have existing health issues, but it is not the plague, polio or scarlet fever. Just practice good hygiene and don't panic.

I’m not pretending to be anything. It’s just what I heard in the last several years after leaving O, and talking to former colleagues. If they changed their wfh policy, hats off to them.

O isn't the only one to not completely shut it's offices:

"While Facebook Inc. recommended employees stay home when feasible, it required large blocks of staffers to remain at the office to press on with certain work—such as the policing of videos or images related to child abuse or p–nography—deemed too sensitive to perform remotely."

"Facebook, Amazon.com Inc. and Google were among the technology firms to recommend working from home to their employees in Seattle" Recommend, not mandate.

"The companies declined to comment further."

"Though Apple has encouraged staff to stay away from the office for health reasons, many engineers say they continue to come into headquarters, heeding company policy that forbids unreleased products from being removed from campus."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/silicon-valley-was-first-to-send-workers-home-its-been-messy/ar-BB11b9vj

If you are one of the few who has to go in (say you work in a lab or you do onsite IT support), the office will be deserted and you will have few if any encounters with other people.

Not all O workers are allowed to WFH. Supposedly you have to be living fifty miles or more from an office. Did something change?

There was an email on March 12 saying that while the offices were still open, that if it was possible to work remotely (which is just about everyone, you don't have to be a coder to WFH), that you could choose to WFH.

It's becoming obvious that people posting here pretending to be O employees are impostors.

Ummm, Oracle is knocking themselves.

What untruthful information has been posted about coronavirus and Oracle?

This is a new low on this board. Trying to use the coronavirus to knock Oracle.

There are many Oracle employees that are not allowed to WFH, and many whose jobs simply can't be done remotely. Not everyone is a code jockey.

But Oracle is all about the $$$$, damn any human considerations. Hey, if someone dies, they can hire a NCG for less! Sweet.

Not all O workers are allowed to WFH. Supposedly you have to be living fifty miles or more from an office. Did something change? I never felt like O gave a sh|t about me when I arrived there by acquisition. They said jump, or don’t jump, and we were all instructed to say “how high? or “ok boss, I won’t.”

My current employer sent daily updates from the VP level for over a week on their COVID-19 news, plans and response. Finally, late Thursday —after the disastrous Wednesday POTUS briefing...coincidence? — a message from the big boss that offices are open for those that have to be on sight to run the building and other critical in person functions, but those who can WFH really need to consider doing that. Strongly consider.

Why can’t all employers just do that? Sure the service industry folks and biz is taking a huge hit. If you care, then pressure your US gov reps to get the Senate leadership to stop the nonsense and approve immediate UI benefits. It’s outrageous that they are saying that is some dem/lib fantasy item. It’s not. You need to keep the economy rolling or plan on recession or worse just about the time that we are voting.

The Universe has a sense of dark humor, doesn’t it?

You would think Oracle's health insurers would be going crazy.

Oracle is self insured. UHC just manages the claims process.

Anyone who wishes to WFH, can WFH. Nobody is being forced to go into the office.

One thing is certain. Oracle leadership isnt connected with its employees and could care less.