Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Message to Ellis about 15% unpaid overtime

When my family asks me about why I work a minimum of 6 extra free OT hours every week during the developmental years of my children (even now that Aero just reported the best quarter ever) and my husband has to pick up extra slack around the house, take and pick up kids from school, help with homework, I miss practices, he has to get dinner on the table, etc. what answer do you suggest I give?

  1. Because my job is more important than your job,
  2. Because I would rather work more than be with the family I made, or
  3. Because my leadership is greedy, lacks true business skills, and I currently have no choice.

You can guess what answer we all give.

You could at least have the b@lls to put it in writing so I don’t look like a liar to my kids!

by
| 4352 views | | 17 replies (last October 3, 2019) | Reply
Post ID: @OP+11fQOHkR

17 replies (most recent on top)

I can just imagine the financial chaos the would happen if every exempt person(in unison) just charged the 40 hr standard week. All forecast and projections would just fail. I wonder how long it would take ( a week maybe two) before it got the attention of the ALT brain trust; and what action they would take to compel the extra hours mandated to safeguard their bonuses and earning projections?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @6wlc+11fQOHkR

Dont work the OT and when he complains just tell him youll try better...play the stupid game and keep looking for greener grass...there are many who have found better cultures/pay/benefits. Honeywells Aero customers are working hard to remove all HW equipment off their fleets due to terribke customer support anyways...eventually you will have to find abother job from the HW corporate greed.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @6sqy+11fQOHkR

Answer is #3, except you do have a choice. I stopped working OT when they changed the WFH policy a few years back. Now I spend the time previously spent on OT stuck in traffic. Have suffered no negative repercussions from management. It is all a mind game they are playing.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @phi+11fQOHkR

The answer is #3, and they can’t put it in writing because it would lead to well deserved lawsuits!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @mlp+11fQOHkR

15%? I guess I missed that memo. I only work OT if we are trying to meet deadline and we are behind. Outside of that, it is a flat 40 per week. Never get questioned about it. Performance reviews and merit increases are always the same, whether you work yourself to death or not.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @kjt+11fQOHkR

Never let management know what you are capable of.
Promise to deliver about 80% of what YOU know you can deliver. Then deliver about 85%... you'll be the hero/overachiever.

Vs some fool that promises 100% and delivers 90%. Although he delivers 5% more than you, YOU get the promotion and raise while the other dude gets hacked for underperformance.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @pxd+11fQOHkR

You can always vote with your feet and leave. People who have left continually express that there are "real" companies out there that actually give a $hi!. Go find one and don't make any excuses.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @vnq+11fQOHkR

I have recently been asking myself that question: "What is more important to me: working a few extra hours to try to make management happy, or (alternate activity, such as doing something with my young family)?" Because of this, I have scaled back how much time I am donating to Honeywell. I am now aiming for 2-3 hours of overtime each week. I'm curious if this will make any problems for me, but my manager is not a fan of the big push for higher metrics, so I think I can get away with it indefinitely.

I hope everyone works how much they need to instead of working extra hours for no reason (no GOOD reason). We just had 2 people in my group quit because of all the abuse from management over the past 2 years. My guess is things will start improving very soon!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @xgq+11fQOHkR

I’ve been in the US workforce full time since 1978. Various companies and roles. But regardless of where I have been, my unbiased observation is:

1). 55%
2). 40%
3). 5%

Companies will load you up to the extent you allow. Yes, there are the 5% where you tow the line or leave. That choice is totally yours. In the other 95%, people have a skewed perception of their own importance and value. And it costs them dearly in the long run.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @qzy+11fQOHkR

Only s—ers are pushed to work OT.
If you do it you do it for yourself because you want to not because they pushed you to.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @ute+11fQOHkR

ALL employees need to put their foot down and refuse to do the free OT unless they have a legitimate deadline to meet. They are going to RIF us anyway, so might as well get it over with.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @cqo+11fQOHkR

You’re a coward if you work the free OT. Perform great in 40, let life worry about itself.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @isl+11fQOHkR

Answer #2 is the correct selection for people in ALL companies. They succumb to intimidation by their employers and sacrifice their family time and health; too weak to say no. By the time they wake up and taste reality, they are a mental case, they have gotten divorced, they are working on their second heart attack, and the kids want nothing to do with them.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @cfq+11fQOHkR

I just got told today I was promoted to tier4 in Mil a/c group. Not sure who my group will be but I need to have an unwritten goal for my team to have 15% overtime on average and over 38 hrs per week on revcogs to meet business goals. I don’t even know who my team is but I already need to change their work to be successful? I don’t even know what projects are right or wrong.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @rfl+11fQOHkR

Honeywell isn’t the place to work if you have children.

This place won’t change until enough people quit.

Good luck.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @gvz+11fQOHkR

What are right charge codes? If you are working on things they asked you to do isn’t that right?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @any+11fQOHkR

Only 15%!!! I am working way more than that and still getting slammed every week for not working more hours on the right charge codes!

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @lju+11fQOHkR

Post a reply

: