Thread regarding DXC Technology layoffs

@ScEvrYT-1jhe... I am not sure where you get your numbers from, but they are not accurate anymore.

as off dec 2013 in Belgium you have the "eenheidsstatuut" which means is a lot lower then what you describe? Calculated in weeks and a lot lower then the previous one.

But the seniority until 2013 is indeed calculated by the former formule claeys which is more or less what you describe.

I am not complaining about the labour rules in Belgium. But they should be followed and what the company is doing now is totally illegal.

Folks in the US are paid a lot more in relative terms than comparable employees in other territories.

@ScEvrYT-1bya - Just because you don't get enough Severance Pay in US, doesn't mean others across the globe should not complain. YOU need to work towards getting your Severance raised, rather than asking others to get a lower one and be satisfied with it.

This is exactly what the MANAGEMENT has been doing to ALL OF US. Comparing the higher wage (relative) country to low cost (relative) resources and keep bringing down REAL wages in US.

I say, let everyone around the Globe complain loudly, may be it will WAKE UP those in US to step up and get out of the Capitalistic (aka. s--- the blood) mentality of the UPPER Management

An italian colleague told me that in Italy DXC proposes about 40 months of salary for the volunteers over50 that leave the company. The package seems good, but he told me that in Italy it is impossible to find a new job if you are over50 (no companies hire the over50). How is the situation in the other countries of Europe? Is there hope for the over50 outside Dxc?

Well for me 12.5 weeks pay would be better than the 8 I might get under the US policy. Not really a whole lot better than the UK. But with my luck they would give me a working notice and I wouldn't get really anything.

SO ANY ONE NOT in the US stop b--ching about your severance pay, its far better than your counter parts get across the pond!

Q: What is a RIF?

A: A “reduction in force” (RIF) is an involuntary separation that results from:

• Discontinuance of a business unit or function within a business unit OR

• The lack of a vacant, comparable position (as determined by CSC) for an employee who returns

from a leave of absence without pay of fewer than 12 months duration.

Q: What does it mean to receive “pay-in-lieu, working notice, or a combination”?

A: When an employee receives “pay-in-lieu,” s/he receives a lump-sum payment equal to the working

weeks of notice to which s/he is entitled, based on years of service, in lieu of actually completing

those workdays. In this situation, the employee is notified and separated on the same date.

In the case of “working notice,” the employee is notified of a RIF/layoff and works out the weeks of

notice to which s/he is entitled. Separation occurs at the end of the notice period.

A “combination” occurs when the employee continues to work a portion of the weeks of notice to

which s/he is entitled and paid a lump sum for any remaining weeks.

Q: Will I be given the option to choose either pay-in-lieu or working notice?

A: The decision to choose pay-in-lieu versus working notice is made by your leader, and is based on

the needs of the business unit.

UK law say statutory redundancy pay is:

No statutory payout with less then two years service. After two years service:

1. Half a week’s pay for each full year you were under 22.

2. One week’s pay for each full year you were 22 or older, but under 41.

3. One and half week’s pay for each full year you were 41 or older.

Length of service is capped at 20 years and weekly pay is capped (at most it is £489).

This is the STATUTORY position; most companies in the UK will have policies paying out more than this but the above is the legal minimum.

"UK compare to Belgium"

Assuming 10 years and not tax ..... I estimate a Belgium worker gets twice as much as a UK worker.

How does the UK employment law compare to the Belgium one anyone ?

I'm sure that I don't need to tell the OP that Belgium has fairly solid employment law...

But for everyone else:

Employed prior to January 2012 and earning less than EUR31,467...three months notice for every five years (or part of five years) of service - or pay lieu of notice.

If you earn more than EUR31,467 then Claeys formula is used:

(0.87 × length of service) + (0.055 × age) + (0.038 × annual gross remuneration/1000) - 1.95 = months' notice (or pay in lieu)

If you employment started after January 2012 and you earn more than EUR31,467:

•Less than three years of continuous employment: 91 calendar days.

•From three years to less than four years of continuous employment: 120 calendar days.

•From four years to less than five years of continuous employment: 150 calendar days.

•From five years to less than six years of continuous employment: 182 calendar days.

•From six years and over of continuous employment: 30 days for each year of service that has been commenced.

I'm sure our colleagues in America and India will now be gasping at the terms of employment law in Belgium.

I'm sorry that you have lost your job, but just imagine how much worse it would be elsewhere....

What country are you from, because in the US there is no law that says "employement laws that mean you are absolutely entitled to your severance". If you get a severance package your lucky.

they'll blame it to the automation that mikey has started.

@ScEvrYT-1qxn - it is even criminal that high management tries to find ways to fire people at low cost - even if it is illegal, to be replaced by young people.

If you are honnest, the fact that the company is in such a bad shape is due to bad management. I have been in sales, and often escalated issues, as the portfolio was not according to what customers wanted and needed. But they all stick with what they were used to, instead of going with the market.

Now "Going Digital", is the buzzword, which is ridicoulus. The world is already going digital for a long time... it is just now that management wakes up, while we at the base knew this already long time but could not move forward due to not being listened to.

So now people in the company are getting fired with no reason, and with a severance which is illegal according to the rules of the company - while the "high in the sky" management - who were the only one still not understanding what "digital" really means - are enriching them with large bonusses (they actually steal from the employees)

The last comment is ridiculous and could have come straight from Mike Lawrie or his inexpeirenced ex-secretary girlfriend who now heads up global HR. There are employement laws that mean you are absolutely entitled to your severance. You have been building up these right for every year you work. (So in effect they are part of your package, just like salary and pension). Lawrie and DXC would love to avoid its legal obligations to staff and only pay himself fat bonuses but don't let the little fat man get awat with it!

Responding to the comment, “you should be getting your due share of compensation, severance, etc.”

I hate to be so blunt, but there is no “due” share coming to you. You were paid for every minute you worked, whether you worked for two weeks or for thirty years. So when you leave, either by your own choice or by DXC directive, both you and the company are at net ZERO. Nothing is “owed” to either party.

@ScEvrYT : Dear OP, Please dont leave the fight as you should be getting your due share of compensation, severance, etc.

I would suggest that if there is no legal battle going on, you should protest even it means speaking to your colleagues and letting them know and jointly holing banners/placards outside the company.

It is a must that these bad deeds of the company come out in the open and published in the media. If not at least social media should help. As humans we should never give in to such corporate greed !!!

I am in Belgium

hate to say it, but you are better off outside of it. I joined a company with more work and more money than sense, which is still hard to get used to after years of miserly spending. But I am surprised at actions in Europe, as the law is supposed to be stronger. So yes, interesting to know what country allows companies to withdraw a 'reorganisation' and pick people off individually.

What country are you in?

take the severance and move on to better things

I mean, this is the company which requires you sue them for severance. So not surprising that DXC would break the law, and not hold up their end of the bargain when it comes to doing anything.